Trouble on the High Seas - the-wheel-weaves

King Harkinian 05-Jun-21 08:36 PM

dis be the planning channel

pop will be in here when he is awake and has joined

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 01:41 AM

So lemme brainstorm some potential announcement ideas

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:49 AM

Good channel name

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:49 AM

Hell yeah

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:49 AM

The action log should be as the wheel wills (edited)

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:50 AM

LOL it should

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:50 AM

Anyway go on

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:50 AM

Btw the white tower has to be a location

But anyway yeah

I wrote up this

Hello @everyone (and everybody else), ThePopStarDude and I are excited to announce that signups are now open for the: __**Interdimensional Magic Expo**__ A game where your characters are all **wizards**! What is a wizard? Good question. For the purposes of this game, a wizard is one or both of: 1. Any character that has a **magical ability** gained through talent and/or training 2. A character that is explicitly **known as a wizard** Tips: -Some abilities not explicitly known as "magic" can still be considered magical (e.g. the Force, bending, Allomancy), so use your best judgment. -Abilities gained through mechanical, pseudoscientific, divine or demonic origins are not considered magical (e.g. you can't be Iron Man, the Hulk, Thor, or Beelzebub). However, a character with abilities of that sort could still be valid under criterion 2 (e.g. Gandalf). -To fit criterion 2, a character must have an authoritative source calling them a wizard (e.g. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, or the kid from The Wizard). The game is expected to start the week or weekend of June 13. The player cap is at 18, and signups will be open until 12PM EST on Tuesday, June 8.

(edited)

Title, dates, player cap all placeholders subject to change

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:51 AM

I can take a screenshot from wot game

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:52 AM

I should probably put Allomancy instead of Surgebinding bc 2 people have read mistborn as opposed to 1 person who has read stormlight

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:52 AM

The white tower looks great in it

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:52 AM

That would be amazing

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:53 AM

The kid from the wizard lmaoo

Objective: find the power glove

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:54 AM

YES lmao

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:54 AM

Looks good to me overall

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:54 AM

Nice

What do you think about the prospective title, dates and player cap?

I wonder if I should change it to Interdimensional Wizarding Expo to make ppl feel less like they need to fit criterion 1

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 05:05 AM

Anyway I'm going to bed for tonight but I'll be back on tmrw morning

King Harkinian

What do you think about the prospective title, dates and player cap?

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:06 PM

@Undyne

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:18 PM

Oh oops lmao I just fixed the signup close date (edited)

I had the wrong Tuesday

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:21 PM

18 is a fair few players to design for

especially if signups last until tuesday

double trouble had only what 12 players and was a turbo, and it still took a fair week to design for

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:24 PM

So do you think we should lower the cap, or give a farther-out estimate for when the game would start?

I think for a full-length game I would rather have a higher cap than a shorter design time, so I'd prefer just giving a farther-out estimate, but I wouldn't be opposed to lowering the cap to say, 15 or so

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:27 PM

Yeah that sounds good

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:29 PM

Ok cool, and if there's a ton of interest we could raise it back to 18 but we'll see (edited)

So

The game is expected to start the week of June 13. The player cap is 15 (but may be raised with sufficient interest), and signups will be open until 12PM EST on Tuesday, June 8.

Does this sound right?

I could omit the thing about raising the cap

Also, do you have any 2 cents about what the title should be?

I want to put out the announcement in half an hour if possible, so signups can be open for 48h

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:42 PM

Oh I meant like

I misread

I thought you said delay the game to start on the 1th

15th

@King Harkinian It's up to you, I think playercap of 18 + start date a couple days later, or a playercap of 15 and the start date on sunday can both work

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:46 PM

Ok I'll go playercap of 18 and start a couple days later

The game is expected to start the week of June 13-18. The player cap is 18, and signups will be open until 12PM EST on Tuesday, June 8.

Does this sound right?

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:48 PM

what does "the week of june 13-18" mean

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:48 PM

roughly sometime between june 13 and 18

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:48 PM

alright

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:49 PM

and title thoughts?

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:49 PM

Sounds good to me

one think we should do is open a design doc beforehand

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:49 PM

Good idea

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:49 PM

Just make a google doc

King Harkinian

I wonder if I should change it to Interdimensional Wizarding Expo to make ppl feel less like they need to fit criterion 1

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:49 PM

what do you think of this btw

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:49 PM

and copy a google sheet from a previous game

Magic expo, wizarding expo, your call both are fine to me

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bmG39i_vGVKuXkvv89TQwu-v72vnjRx8jN9RsWK2IqY/edit#gid=0

Double Trouble 2

Sheet1 PLAYER,CHARACTER,Skill mod.,PHASE 1,ROLL,PHASE 2,ROLL,PHASE 3,ROLL,PHASE 4,ROLL,PHASE 5,ROLL,PHASE 6,ROLL,PHASE 7,ROLL,PHASE 8,ROLL Waffles,Spike Spiegel Brinelex Brine,Raving Rabbid Cathode,Fluttershy Superb,Villager [ori4thewin],Doctor Doofenshmirtz AClowderOfCats,Big Floppa ZelRaat,M...

Like you could make a copy of this, remove the playernames etc, and use it as a base

and add players and characters as they sign up

that way I can keep an eye on it as well

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:51 PM

Ok cool will do

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:52 PM

although we don't need to log down actions here anymore thanks to the bot

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:52 PM

Yeah that is useful

Undyne 06-Jun-21 04:52 PM

so it could be reorganized at some point but oh well it has spaces for the playerlist and objectives

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 04:55 PM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1psqGWMYocclzkM3h63KRID8zGVpFVjSTvqY4o1Z1IeA/edit?usp=sharing

IWE

Sheet1 PLAYER,CHARACTER,Skill mod.,PHASE 1,ROLL,PHASE 2,ROLL,PHASE 3,ROLL,PHASE 4,ROLL,PHASE 5,ROLL,PHASE 6,ROLL,PHASE 7,ROLL,PHASE 8,ROLL SUCCESS,MUST ROLL 100%,1,Nearly Certain 95%,2 90%,3 85%,4 80%,5 75%,6,Likely 70%,7 65%,8 60%,9 55%,10 50%,11,Possible / Maybe 45%,12 40%,13 35%,14,Player cha...

Hello @ everyone (and everybody else), ThePopStarDude and I are excited to announce that signups are now open for the: INTERDIMENSIONAL WIZARDING EXPO A game where your characters are all wizards! What is a wizard? Good question. For the purposes of this game, a wizard is one or both of: 1. Any character that has a magical ability gained through talent and/or training 2. A character that is explicitly known as a wizard Tips: -Some abilities not explicitly known as "magic" can still be considered magical (e.g. the Force, bending, Allomancy), so use your best judgment. -Abilities gained through mechanical, pseudoscientific, divine or demonic origins are not considered magical (e.g. you can't be Iron Man, the Hulk, Thor, or Beelzebub). However, a character with abilities of that sort could still be valid under criterion 2 (e.g. Gandalf). -To fit criterion 2, a character must have an authoritative source calling them a wizard (e.g. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, or the kid from The Wizard). The game is expected to start the week of June 13-18. The player cap is at 18, and signups will be open until 12PM EST on Tuesday, June 8. (edited)

Btw this is the server pic

Undyne 06-Jun-21 05:01 PM

good

wait

hold on

before you announce

actually announce now

this can wait a couple minutes

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 05:02 PM

Ahmayk is in a zoom call at the moment he says it will be an hour b4 he can give me the perm

Undyne 06-Jun-21 05:02 PM

okay

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/477261212166389761/631030295310893086/Janne-velho.jpg?width=799&height=534

we should use these pictures in the announcement somehow

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 05:02 PM

LOL

YES

Lemme see if embeds work like this

Undyne 06-Jun-21 05:03 PM

whatever embeds you have should appear at the end of the post in order

you know my old edward elric cosplay from 5 years ago would work as a popsplay for this too

I mean fullmetal alchemist alchemists are basically wizards

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 05:04 PM

Hello @ everyone (and everybody else), ThePopStarDude and I are excited to announce that signups are now open for the: INTERDIMENSIONAL WIZARDING EXPO A game where your characters are all wizards!

What is a wizard? Good question. For the purposes of this game, a wizard is one or both of: 1. Any character that has a magical ability gained through talent and/or training 2. A character that is explicitly known as a wizard Tips: -Some abilities not explicitly known as "magic" can still be considered magical (e.g. the Force, bending, Allomancy), so use your best judgment. -Abilities gained through mechanical, pseudoscientific, divine or demonic origins are not considered magical (e.g. you can't be Iron Man, the Hulk, Thor, or Beelzebub). However, a character with abilities of that sort could still be valid under criterion 2 (e.g. Gandalf). -To fit criterion 2, a character must have an authoritative source calling them a wizard (e.g. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, or the kid from The Wizard). The game is expected to start the week of June 13-18. The player cap is at 18, and signups will be open until 12PM EST on Tuesday, June 8.

Undyne 06-Jun-21 05:05 PM

good

I think the older pic works better for the announcement because then they're both these normal outfits

but with a wizard hat

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 05:06 PM

Wait so which do you mean

Your pic first or my pic first

Undyne 06-Jun-21 05:06 PM

I mean like between the witch hat and the fullmetal alchemist pics

the witch had pic works better for the announcement

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 05:06 PM

Yeah

Agreed

Undyne 06-Jun-21 05:06 PM

because it's more generic wizardy

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 05:07 PM

Yeah lmao

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 06:04 PM

@Undyne Think I should delay the signup close time by an hour or two so we still have a full 48h?

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 06:21 PM

@Undyne Ahmayk is testing our criteria, do you want to be part of the DM or should I just ask you your opinion on the grey area stuff

e.g. do we allow OCs

Undyne 06-Jun-21 06:23 PM

eh one or two hours short of 48 is fine (edited)

you can ask me for grey area stuff OCs are fine

sorry I'm writing da music

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 06:41 PM

@Undyne would you agree that any OC must be wholly original and not derivative? e.g. you can't make up "wizard mario"

Undyne 06-Jun-21 06:41 PM

yeah

that's a good rule

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 06:42 PM

solid

Undyne 06-Jun-21 06:42 PM

but I think in general things can be negotiated

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 06:42 PM

yeah I agree

one of the test examples was Sherlock, I said he probably wouldn't count but if someone really was passionate and made a strong case that his abilities are magic, I'd be flexible

Undyne 06-Jun-21 06:51 PM

I wouldn't say so at face value but yeah if the case is really good AND they can incorporate it into the rp then sure

the latter point is more important to me

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 06:51 PM

Yeah

Ok so

brine submitted the lich from adventure time

their objective would be

Objective: All life in the game world must be extinguished at the end of the game. This has to include every player character, every NPC and every entity that might be mentioned in an area's description. If the narrators during the phase updates are characters in the game world (example: Eduardo in Jailbreak), they must also be dead. If a universe outside of the game board is confirmed to canonically exist but is not included in the game itself, I must make sure that it is canonically devoid of life at the end of the game as well.

So yeah

what is our call @Undyne

Undyne 06-Jun-21 06:56 PM

usually these cataclysmic objectives are fine when they're left vague to allow for some creative thinking

but this just seems needlessly specific that tunnels it into only one logical interpretation

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 06:58 PM

Yeah

I was expecting it would be vague enough for us to do some out-of-the-box design

Which is why I said most stuff would be ok

Also

Snowva asked whether Himiko from Danganronpa v3 would be acceptable and I am trying to decide

She has no confirmed magic powers but she is officially known as the "Ultimate Magician" and she calls herself the "Ultimate Mage" because she claims her magic is real

So it's a bit of a grey area bc we didn't determine if "magician" counts nor is it clear whether he calling herself a mage is authoritative enough

I think if someone claims to be a wizard and presents as a wizard/mage/what have you, despite having no magic powers, that would be funny to allow

So I'd be ok to allow it

But what do you think?

Ahmayk is playing Beatrice btw

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:06 PM

beatrice is easy to play without spoiling anything

he'll be fine with it

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:07 PM

yeah

he hasn't submitted an objective yet

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:07 PM

objective: invite a BDSM club to a remote island owned by rich people

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:07 PM

cathode is playing someone from earthbound

LOL

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:07 PM

this is a certified pop stream injoke

are you updating the sheet

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:07 PM

yeah but I haven't gotten cath's actual character yet

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Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:07 PM

Pinned a message.

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:08 PM

they are waiting to submit until they have an objective

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:08 PM

aite

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:08 PM

Should I mark brine down or not until we've decided what to do with their objective

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:08 PM

did you tell them what I said

I think they should rethink it

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:08 PM

Alright I will

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:09 PM

like what's fun about these extreme objectives is finding ways to design around them and make them work

but when it's this specific there's no real way to do that and it'd take ages to balance anything that big

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:09 PM

yeah

I said they might want to discuss it a bit with you so you can come to perhaps some form of compromise

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:10 PM

I'm gonna sleep in a few

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:12 PM

Yeah no worries

Cath is playing the masked man from mother 3

OBJECTIVE: Pull the final needle required of the seven needles.

they have PSI powers

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:13 PM

We can discuss ideas for design in a call again if you want during my work

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:13 PM

(psychic abilities)

So I accepted it

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:13 PM

I know I've played earthbound

That's an ok from me

The problem with that objective is it's tied to the world the character is from

It's essentially my 'break the remaining seals' for logain

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:14 PM

Interesting

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:14 PM

So we'll have to make it fit with this too

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:14 PM

You might say they'll be trying to find a needle in a haystack

Do you think we'll be able to make it work or should I ask for smth else?

And also do you think I should accept Himiko for Snowva or should magicians/people who only claim to be magical not count

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:16 PM

You'll have to make it satisfying

But it needs some knowledge of mother 3's story

And that makes it kind of tedious

I know it fairly well but idk if you do

Idk who himiko is use your own discretion

Brine sent "Objective: Every player characters and NPCs (if killable) aside from me must be dead by the end of the game." And I guess I could accept it but I told him we are under no obligation to make it easy for them

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:21 PM

Alright I don't want to spoil myself too much on mother 3's story (though I am spoiled on some things like the masked man's identity) but yeah that means it's kind of up to you

Well my discretion for himiko is what I said above, I'm not sure if "magician" is enough for criteria 2 (or if it is enough for someone to claim they are a mage) but I want to allow it (edited)

I'm going shopping in a couple minutes so if you need to sleep you can

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:22 PM

If you don't want to be spoiled I advise you to have him rethink the objective

To be tied less to the final act of a story heavy game

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:23 PM

Hmm

Idk if I should make him rethink it just to avoid spoiling myself though lol

That seems like a dick move

Maybe I should just accept that is what comes with hosting an objective game

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:24 PM

Then again

It doesn't have to be the seven needles from mother 3

They could be whatever

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:24 PM

Well it would be good if it was from the source game

I think we can figure it out tomorrow, for now I'll tell cath that we've tentatively accepted the objective but if he has a good backup to let us know just in case

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:25 PM

Well

The seals in moonlit weren't

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:26 PM

Ohh

yeah

That's what you meant

Like

Ok

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:26 PM

They were rethought to fit the game lore

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:26 PM

Yeah

I think we can do something like that

Undyne 06-Jun-21 07:27 PM

Either way I'm taking a nap now

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 07:27 PM

Aight

Talk to u later, have a good rest

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 08:20 PM

OK SO (edited)

THIS IS PERFECT

CLOWDER SUBMITTED BATTLER

WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF PROVING ANOTHER PLAYER'S MAGIC ISN'T REAL

AND HIMIKO'S MAGIC ISN'T REAL

I am accepting himiko

Pizzie submitted an easy one at least lmao

@Undyne For posterity, clowder said you said battler is valid because blue truth is a magical ability, which is why I accepted it, but I'm putting the objective here in case we need to tweak it Prove that another players magic isn't real, and everything they claim is "magic" can be done with non-magical human tricks.

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 08:43 PM

Superb is playing as the InstallShield wizard

(I OKed this months ago)

His objective is currently "Install a program for someone." we can discuss if that works or not, but I'm accepting the character

Vriska Serket 06-Jun-21 08:44 PM

omfg thats fantastic

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 08:45 PM

yes

I couldn't not allow it

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:14 PM

@Undyne Another grey area: ori is interested in playing a character who has no powers, but is widely known as a psychic. Do you think psychic is close enough to wizard to count for criterion 2? So far we counted "magician/mage" for criterion 2 for Himiko, but that is closer to "wizard" than "psychic" is. So the question is just where do we draw the line (edited)

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:32 PM

What kind of psychic

Need to know the character

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:32 PM

character is Reigen Arataka from mob psycho

like a "talks to spirits" type psychic

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:36 PM

I dunno

That sounds more akin to demonic influence

If it's like magical acts such as levitation etc I'd accept it

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:51 PM

I asked

if there's anything beyond talking to spirits

No response yet

(I sent it 15 mins ago not just now)

So I'll see what he says

If everyone who's joined the server successfully signs up (+ori who isn't in the server yet), we will have 16 players

that's pretty good

If only the ppl who've signed up already or suggested a character sign up, we will have 11 players

So we're looking good either way

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:54 PM

Zel wanted to sign up as a character that was turned into a yokai after magical research and got magical powers

I said that should be fine

He said he's still thinking about it

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:55 PM

Yeah he had 2 ideas

one from umineko one from tsukhime

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:55 PM

I said dlanor is out

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:55 PM

is that the umi one

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:55 PM

That character is specifically not magical

Yeah

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:55 PM

ok

bc they're an angel?

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

Nah they just don't have powers

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

I was unsure what the verdict would be bc they can apparently use red/blue truth which you apparently told clowder was a magical ability

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

There's a deeper reason I denied it that goes into spoilers

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

ah ok

but battler is still good?

from clowder

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

aight cool

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

I think it will be great

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:56 PM

yes it will

especially with himiko

So the tsukhime character would be hunting down the reincarnation of a vampire

we would have to pick a character or npc to be that reincarnation

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:57 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:57 PM

apparently the vampire's soul or w/e prefers characters of high birth and high magical potential

Undyne 06-Jun-21 09:58 PM

Gothic eugenics

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 09:59 PM

true

So should I accept that character and we should pick someone to be the reincarnation?

I'm not opposed to it, but it would be marking a character for death with no input of their own

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:06 PM

I'm a little hesitant to have random people be marked for death

I'd rather it be an NPC

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:06 PM

Yeah

Also

nvm i was gonna say smth about the lich but ori got back to me

[ori4thewin] — Today at 5:09 PM and yeah, Reigen claims to have fairly nondescript all-around psychic powers. So talking to/dispelling spirits, and general blessing/curse dtuff

so yeah idk

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:10 PM

Hmmmm I'd say that falls onto demonic/godly influence

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:10 PM

it doesn't scream 'wizard' to me

yeah

Speaking of demonic/godly influence

with respect to the lich

In the episode "Gold Stars," the Lich implies he is older than existence itself, a survivor of a time "before there was nothing." After that, in some way, his essence was transferred to a catalyst comet, whose task was to kill all living beings on Earth. The comet seen in "Evergreen" is likely the Lich, as evidenced by its green coloration and horn-like flames, and was implied to have caused the K–T extinction event that killed the dinosaurs. The Lich's mutagenic substance was later used in the Mushroom Bomb, unleashing his physical form onto humanity during the Great Mushroom War.

Would this risk disqualifying the lich as having demonic/godly powers, or is it really just the objective that we should be worrying about

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:26 PM

It doesn't scream wizard to me no

But really my main concern is idk if we can make this fun

Like as soon as brine starts killing people they get ganged up on and that's that

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:26 PM

Yeah

Like the only way it could be any good is if there was some kind of indirect way of achieving the goal (some form of mcguffin that would need to be paired with a big red button of some kind), and if other people would have a chance to stop it

So that brine wouldn't have to just kill people one by one

and like

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:28 PM

It would have to be communicated to them initially

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:28 PM

Considering that it is the interdimensional wizarding expo, multiple complete universes are confirmed to exist

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:28 PM

So that brine knows there's something to do

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:29 PM

so would that mean brine would have to have a way of destroying all life in all of those universes

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:29 PM

Rather than just starting blasting

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:29 PM

yeah

I think if we keep the objective at all, we would at the very least need to change the last bit

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:29 PM

Brine updated their objective

Now it just includes all player characters and NPCs

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:30 PM

Alright

Hmm

Yeah idk

I want to allow player freedom but it feels like such a negative objective

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:30 PM

It does doesn't it

I'll leave it to you

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:30 PM

Aight

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:31 PM

Personally

I would at least not prioritize an objective that directly seeks to stop people from playing

The 'cause the end of the world' objective with Majora wasn't worded to necessarily kill people, so it was made to possibly destroy the world but allow for people to escape

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:32 PM

Yeah I think if it were to be a thing at all, whatever big red button we give them would only come into effect at the very end of the game

But it would need to be something other ppl could find out about so it's not just "yeah btw everyone dies"

they'd need to have a chance to stop it

that is the only way I could see it being possible at all

but still

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:34 PM

Indeed

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:34 PM

As for ori's idea

The only argument I can think of in favour is that if a character with actual psychic powers is good, then a character who is thought to have psychic powers should also be good

but

PSI is a lot different from psychic spirit medium stuff

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:35 PM

It needs to influence our world somehow

Not just communicate with another world

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:35 PM

Yeah

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:35 PM

PSI manipulates stuff like lightning

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:35 PM

Exactly

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:35 PM

I would not count maya fey as a wizard for example

She is a spirit channeler

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:36 PM

Yeah I think that's a pretty good threshold to go by

has ori played AA so I can use the comparison

actually idk why you would know that

I'll just let them know

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:36 PM

Alright

Hasn't mentioned it in spectakord to my memory

(the server where everyone not from mafia originates from)

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:38 PM

ah makes sense

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:40 PM

I don't think anyone can be traced elsewhere actually

Brine, lilith, ori, locke, clowder, kiska are from there on the main server

Hard pressed to think of anyone else not inherited from mafia

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:43 PM

Yeah I guess some of the siivacord people weren't super into mafia? But I think most of them at least played one game

Undyne 06-Jun-21 10:43 PM

Yeah

Maybe cako?

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 10:43 PM

Perhaps

King Harkinian 06-Jun-21 11:11 PM

So

I told zel we thought his tsukihime submission would work

Now it's just a matter of brine

Undyne 06-Jun-21 11:26 PM

Ok

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:23 AM

Ori is playing Ellen from The Witch's House

(she is a witch)

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:43 AM

Yoo like

The rpg maker game?

That's a classic

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:10 AM

Cool

I hadn't heard of it

that is an upsetting plot and ending though lmao

Undyne 07-Jun-21 08:07 AM

It's on the same level as ib and mad father in terms of indie game legacy (edited)

If you know those

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:25 PM

Damn brine be talking in vault like it's decided that we're allowing it

I probably should've nipped this in the bud

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:26 PM

well signups aren't even over yet you can still do whatever

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:29 PM

Yeah

Btw maack signed up as yu narukami from the person a four

Waffles did someone from benoblade but he said he already subbed it to you as well?

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:36 PM

yeah but I'm letting people primarily submit things to you

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:36 PM

Ok cool

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:36 PM

melia is def a wizard

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:36 PM

Have u played xeno chronicles

Do u know what a good trial we could give would be

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:36 PM

tbh he is referencing the definitive edition epilogue content I think

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:36 PM

I'm looking them up now and it seems like there's a lot of possibly

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:36 PM

which I haven't played

but aside from that well

she's royalty and a ruler of her people, she had to do some trials to reach that position

could do something with that context

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:38 PM

Alright cool

Here is the page I was looking at for examples https://www.gamerguides.com/xenoblade-chronicles-definitive-edition/guide/appendix/achievements/trials#trials-2

Trials - Achievements - Appendix | Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive...

List of Trials in the Achievements Menu for Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition.

Also pablo is interested in playing as an NPC, he is just checking his availability to make sure he can

I'm gonna start filling in some possible abilities in the 'ability' column of the sheet (marking them with a ? to indicate that it's just brainstorming)

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:43 PM

eh those are just achievements afaik

I think he has a more story based approach

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:49 PM

Aight

So we are at 10 people officially signed up now, albeit one unconfirmed (brine)

That is good

And if pablo can npc we'll have 2 npcs which is also good

3-5 more players and 1 more npc would be ideal but either way we are in good shape

So lemme think

Our options with brine are

-Let brine just try to manually kill every player and NPC -Create some sort of big red button that has to be unlocked with a macguffin which will either activate defense mechanisms that will target players, or start shutting down areas -Try to revamp the objective into something more vague -Get brine to sub a different character (bc they don't want to play the lich unless it's with an objective like this)

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:54 PM

I'm kind of tired of arbitrary maguffins

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 02:55 PM

Yeah fair

Still there could be some other way of activating it

Like solving a puzzle or lowering defenses somehow

But the hassle would be that we'd need to make it achievable for brine, while also making sure the other players have a chance to stop it or escape

And how tf do you balance that

You're basically balancing one person's objective against everyone else's

Undyne 07-Jun-21 02:58 PM

that's the thing

in double trouble both games essentially focused on majora's objective

with the moon in dt1 and the comet in dt2

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:12 PM

yeah

and like that's not the worst thing ever but

the problem is that, emotionally speaking, I will side with the other players and not want brine to win

so I don't fully trust myself to design it fairly one way or the other

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:13 PM

yeah again it's like previously there were safeguards to make people able to survive even if the apocalypse came

(go on the space station)

(except brine made the space station crash into the comet, so actually the people on earth survived)

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:14 PM

was brine majora

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:14 PM

nah brine was a raving rabbid

zel was majora

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:14 PM

ahh

Yeah like

It's hard for me to be objective (hah) about this

Bc remember how I kind of got salty over being randomly blown up by clowder in anniversary game

And at the time I tried to detach myself and say "if doing that is part of your objective, then it's fine, otherwise it's griefing and unfair"

So I was trying to hold myself to that

But at a certain point does it not become unfair for the other players even if it is your objective

That is the philosophical question at play here

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:17 PM

that's the thing I personally like to make things doable without killing anyone

so when the objective is "kill everyone" I'm inclined to rethink it

the fun things with some apocalyptic objectives is to make them doable without necessarily killing everyone

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:18 PM

Yeah

ALso godddd they are testing the fire alarm in my apartment building to day so it keeps coming on randomly and it's putting me on edge

I should put my earplugs in

Anyway

I think it's fair to say that neither of us is exactly on board with brine's objective being this

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:20 PM

yeah it seems to be more trouble than it's worth

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:20 PM

And also, the thing is that we now know what brine's plan would be thanks to vault

Which kind of makes it hard bc now we would have to do weapon/item placements knowing that brine will be looking for the most dangerous ones

And we would be designing said items knowing that if we make one too powerful, or not powerful enough, it might unbalance the game

I mean I guess that is always true but there are not always people actively seeking to cause destruction

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:23 PM

that's a good thing actually brine basically laying out their entire expectations for the game is a little problematic

because no matter what we're going to keep that in mind if we go with this objective

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:24 PM

Yeahhh

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:24 PM

even if we try not to

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:24 PM

That's what I was trying to get at

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:24 PM

that should actually be a social clarification

don't detail your expectations for gameplay plans in vault during the design process, to avoid inadvertently influencing the GMs (edited)

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:24 PM

Yeah lol

How and when would we want to make that clarification do you think

Or should we just tell ahmayk to post about it at some point

I'd be wary of posting about it now bc, if we do reject this objective, I don't want brine to think they screwed themself out of getting to play the lich by posting in vault

Bc that would not be the case

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:27 PM

that's the problem because like people will see later that it was brine who sparked the clarification

well it's not the same point as you just said

but it could create a feeling of pressure on brine

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:29 PM

yeah I mean I think it is inevitable one way or the other

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:30 PM

I think we should initially just explain our grievances with the objective's direction to brine

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:30 PM

yeah

I think we should communicate our actual issues with the objective now, and save the clarification for after the game

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:32 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:34 PM

So I'm thinking about what to say

Perhaps something along the lines of "we aren't confident we could balance it in a way that would be fair to both you and the rest of the players, and we worry it would result in an unsatisfying game if that balance isn't found"

Undyne 07-Jun-21 03:45 PM

sounds good

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 03:56 PM

Alright

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:03 PM

https://youtu.be/s3OKi1YFaqQ

Clashman The Third

My Favorite Logic Battle In Umineko

looking forward to this interaction

(no spoilers)

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:04 PM

LOL

Got them

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:04 PM

rest assured there is a glorious scene of umineko shitposting once you get into it

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:04 PM

I think it is legitimately so great that we have these two characters in the game

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:04 PM

totally

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:04 PM

Do ahmayk and clowder know

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:04 PM

they don't know of each other

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:04 PM

Zel somehow knew about them both

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:05 PM

??

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:05 PM

Idk man lmao

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:05 PM

I mean okay I think he could have guessed ahmayk is beatrice

because he played her already in uhh

the slasher game

but idk how he knows clowder is battler

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:06 PM

Yeah the only thing I can think of is him dming people after seeing they'd signed up but that would be weird

Then again...

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:06 PM

I mean it's possible they coordinate their character pics

picks

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:06 PM

Maybe yeah

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:06 PM

it's a little unadvised but I guess it's not against any rules

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:07 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:39 PM

@Undyne I talked to brine, you think we could work with "Extinguish all life in the Universe"?

To me that feels a lot more like something we can actually work with

It would give us some design leeway

Since this is multidimensional, it would only need to affect one universe

And we could also cheese it if we really wanted to

By putting like

A box of Life cereal in one of the areas

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:44 PM

sounds good

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:44 PM

Alright so should I tell Brine we'll accept it then

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:45 PM

might as well

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:45 PM

Ok cool

See this is the sort of objective that is actually interesting to me

Bc there's some room for interpretation and it's achievable without being a complete zero sum game

Do you still have any reservations about it though?

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:46 PM

I'd say it's fine

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 04:47 PM

Alright cool

Also

There's the concept of pocket universes

Technically, killing someone in a pocket dimension would be extinguishing all life in that universe lmao

But anyway

Undyne 07-Jun-21 04:52 PM

I see

do you want to choose the locations based on character picks?

Should we talk to brine about posting in vault now since they're not slowing down

I can tell them too

Alright I mentioned it to them

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 05:04 PM

Alright good yeah

Sorry I was just chatting in another server (which is bad because I am supposed to be at work but to be fair I am just waiting for something to load up)

I'm down to start formulating locations yeah

I already put a couple of non-character-related location ideas on the spreadsheet (just tentatively)

Undyne 07-Jun-21 05:06 PM

make a google doc for the meat of the design

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vcJcyESBNhWYLs1LeihjFIvgHgYH7dT1Kw_uV9unj2k/edit

Double Trouble 2 design

DOUBLE TROUBLE GAME 2 FT. POP AND 404 GENERAL IDEAS (Bold = unresolved) There’s some kind of a festival on phase 9 (in 3 days from the beginning, each day is 3 phases long), and a meteor is passing at that moment. If the meteor’s course is changed a bit, it would crash into the planet and destroy...

you can check this out for reference

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 05:13 PM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10SFpFZArEeYqWPkNMCFLXYAHPdT6xTMHx5jUeWnKqj0/edit?usp=sharing

Wizard Game Design

Wizard Game Moment

Spreadsheet: General Concepts -Interdimensional Wizarding Expo -Hosted by... some powerful wizards. Gandalf? Dumbledore? etc Locations and Shiz Various locations from different universes tied together by portals, like Moonlit. -Hogwarts Great Hall seems like a goo...

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King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 05:13 PM

Pinned a message.

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 05:40 PM

I imagine there should be some form of library location

OH

That is the perfect way to work in Discworld

The Unseen University library

Complete with the orangutan librarian

Undyne 07-Jun-21 05:42 PM

Great

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 05:42 PM

Though I wouldn't want someone to play an NPC who can only say "ook"

Maybe they can provide what they're actually saying in parentheses

Undyne 07-Jun-21 05:51 PM

Hmm maybe not that

And not every location needs to have its own NPC

Vriska Serket 07-Jun-21 05:54 PM

ook

Undyne

And not every location needs to have its own NPC

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 06:09 PM

No, but the Librarian is iconic

Tbf I guess idk if you've gotten to that part in book 1 yet

But yeah the librarian is what makes the unseen university library worth having in the first place IMO

As for other location ideas, keeping in mind that we'll probably only get to have 4-5 locations, what are some good player-related ideas

Are there any kind of iconic locales from umineko

Like any particular rooms in the house or something

Undyne 07-Jun-21 06:25 PM

it's in book 1? guess I have to rafo

I think last time I left off they were escaping a tentacle monster with the barbarian in the temple

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 06:27 PM

Ah ok

yeah book 1 has a lot of sendups of classic sword-and-sorcery fantasy like conan the barbarian

which is why cohen the barbarian is a thing

It becomes less like that as the series goes on

But yeah at some point you will get to the unseen university library

Undyne 07-Jun-21 06:28 PM

I think his name is hrun

or however it's pronounced

the confusion around lexicon like "insurance" and "tourist" and "economics" is really funny

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 06:30 PM

lmao

yeah

and ok yeah hrun and cohen are two different barbarian characters

I completely forgot hrun existed lol

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 06:45 PM

So let's see

We definitely should have a library location, whether that's unseen university or something else

So that's one location accounted for

None of the other characters really scream out "this is a good location"

For personaman there could be the Velvet Room but that's not the most wizardy thing ever

I don't think the wizard from terraria specifically has any kind of wizard tower

I don't believe tarhiel or the masketta man are linked to a specific location

ellen would have her house and the umineko characters could have the umineko house

but neither of them are thoroughly necessary

though

ahmayk hasn't given an objective yet so we'll see about that one

something related to the umineko house might be the best route to go with

I'd like to have two items specific to brine's objective

one being a box of Life cereal

the other being a fire extinguisher

If we say that the locations used for the expo have been temporarily closed off into one pocket universe connected by the portals, then brine has a few ways to achieve their objective

1. Eat the entire box of Life cereal 2. Spray the fire extinguisher on every living player and NPC 3. Kill every player and NPC 4. Destroy one of the portals, thus isolating one of the locations in its own pocket universe, and kill anyone in that area 5. Cause the destruction of one or more of the universes that a location originates from

If we have a box of cereal, it will need to be in an appropriate location

For this I would imagine either a residence or a restaurant of some kind

Harry Dresden's apartment would be an option, even though it's not related to any of the characters

The cool thing about that apartment is that it could have a !moveinstant option to go to his basement lab

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 10:01 PM

Zel still wants to finish the route of the character he's going to play before sending an objective, but he's fairly sure he wants to play her so I'm marking him as signed up

Knight is deciding between playing Daffy Duck the Wizard and CC from Code Geass

Undyne 07-Jun-21 10:19 PM

Let's also think of location ideas as things to further objectives

What kinds of locations are needed

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 10:38 PM

Yeah that's what I was considering too

So far the objectives we have that could use a location are:

-seventh needle -develop a magic means of flight -complete a trial -install a program??

It's possible we could roll the seventh needle and the trial into one thing

Similar to how your objective overlapped with mine in moonlit

Undyne 07-Jun-21 10:46 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 10:46 PM

installing a program could be anything

and the means of flight we'd just have to make sure there is a way for him to develop it

Undyne 07-Jun-21 10:46 PM

An area based on the trial idea would be effective

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 10:49 PM

Yeah

Maybe that could be some form of open air area where the means of flight could also be tested

Undyne 07-Jun-21 10:57 PM

Wait

Trial

Could be a scientific trial

And not a test of skill

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 10:59 PM

That is also valid

What if you somehow needed to fly to get to the needle

And that the trial also was related to that

Then those 3 characters would have to cooperate somehow

Oh also

Do we want there to be a global objective of any kind

Or anything aside from people's personal objectives

Like, since it is an expo, maybe there could be something like "put on the best display of magic, as voted by the judges" and all npcs (including gm run ones if they exist) would be the judges

Obviously that would be highly subjective and most people can only do a certain kind of thing (or whatever they can do is very straightforward) so it might be difficult to make that fair for everybody

But just putting that out there to get the wheels turning

I keep going on tangents rip

Back to the locations

So we want at least one location to be where a trial can take place, potentially also where the needle is, potentially also involving open air where flight can take place

Undyne 07-Jun-21 11:06 PM

I'd add a shared event at least

King Harkinian 07-Jun-21 11:07 PM

You mean on the topic of a global thing?

I agree

I think there should be some form of shared thing to tie it all together, even if it's not specifically a global objective

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 12:07 AM

Snowva has signed up as himiko officially

Objective is to organize a magic show

That can be done anywhere but ideally somewhere with a stage

The hogwarts great hall could work for that

Oh my gosh

We could straight up have it just be hogwarts and have the outdoor area be the quidditch pitch

That would go against my multiple-universes-connected-via-portals thing though so I'm not sold on that

We could still use quidditch pitch for the outdoor flying trial needle area, and just use something else for a place where a magic show can be performed

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 12:20 AM

Btw we are now at 12 players and it will be 13 once knight decides on who to play as

We may also get signups from suds and cam, suds I know brought up a character but was unsure of an objective

I'll double check with him tn, as well as cam since I recall cam mentioned maybe playing an allomancer

15 players would be perf

And 2 npcs if pablo is good

Undyne 08-Jun-21 02:36 AM

@King Harkinian do you wanna call about all this rn?

Nvm you're excavating rocks in space

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:05 AM

I can call in 20

When we're done this deep dive

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:18 AM

Sorry I'm already heading to bed

Fuck hogwarts that is so overdone have it be one room max

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:26 AM

yeah lmao

it will either be quidditch pitch or great hall

but yeah when ur up just hit me with your own text wall lmao

i will read it all

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:26 AM

Alright

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:26 AM

btw knight signed up as daffy duck the wizard

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:26 AM

Cool

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:36 AM

Also ahmayk finally came in with his objective

Objective: Win a logic battle against another player. A logic battle is a battle of wits between two players with two conflicting statements of truth. The battle is won when either a player surrenders or contradicts themselves, making the other the winner. The consequences and further details of a logic battle will be determined by the GMs.

13 players officially

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:43 AM

Sounds good to me

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:44 AM

Reached out to suds and cam bc they'd indicated wanting to play and I wanted to get to them before the deadline

both of them just forgot lol

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:44 AM

Aite

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:44 AM

suds submitted his objective for sorcerer mickey

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:44 AM

What incarnation?

Fantasia?

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:45 AM

Hmm is there a big difference between the fantasia and fantasia 2000 incarnations?

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:45 AM

There was a sorcerer mickey in fantasia 2000?

I literally only remember the rhapsody in blue bit from that

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:45 AM

I think it did have sorcerer's apprentice? idk actually

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:46 AM

I mean like there's been wizard mickeys in other media too like comics

But I assume he means the fantasia one

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:46 AM

I can't find any yt clips of sorcerer's apprentice in 2000 (aside from the song on the ost) so maybe it was just in the original

Yeah it is from fantasia

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:46 AM

Finna get a broom npc

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:46 AM

He has submitted another objective idea

His initial one which he was wanting to improve was: bulldoze someone's private property and build a Disneyland over it

the new one he suggested was buy a franchise that a player/npc comes from and force them to be in the next kingdom hearts game

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:47 AM

Brilliant

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:47 AM

Do you think we should go with the first or second

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:47 AM

Second

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:47 AM

Alright lmao

I'll let him know

Undyne 08-Jun-21 03:47 AM

Anyway I gotta sleep gnight

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:48 AM

Goodnight!

@Minamitsu Murasa welcome welcome

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 03:51 AM

This is a certified npc moment

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:51 AM

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 03:51 AM

Lemme read up on this stuff

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:51 AM

Oh man there is some good stuff in here

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 03:52 AM

I already know suds' objective and it's funny af

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 03:52 AM

Yes lmao

It's really good

We have wizard mickey and wizard daffy duck in this game and it is great

Only missing wizard mario :'(

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 03:52 AM

Holy shit

These are some good objectives

Superb's character is also very good

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 04:01 AM

yes

just got cam's character btw

Character: Kelsier Fortnite, the Survivor of Tomato Town Objective: Overthrow a government OR get a victory royale

So damn good

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 04:03 AM

LMAO

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 04:04 AM

Now at 15 characters and 2 NPCs

we are sitting pretty

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 04:06 AM

Yessir

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 04:07 AM

That accounts for everybody in the server right now so unless we get some more interest from the objective hub, this will be the lineup

(I still want meepster to join and reprise his role as gandalf)

Honestly

Cam's objective makes Brine's objective all the more interesting

If brine starts trying to kill off characters, cam stands a chance of actually getting a victory royale

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 04:09 AM

Yeah

Ahmayk and clowder's objectives line up with each other's perfectly as well

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 04:10 AM

yes lmao

it's so good

This is so well set up

The game is going to be so chaotic

And I love it

Now the ball will be in our court to make sure it lives up to that potential

clowder's objective also is interesting in light of snowva's

Because himiko actually doesn't have real magic

clowder's objective is half the reason I said yes to letting snowva play himiko

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 04:12 AM

Lmaoooo

Things are looking good

I like the map idea so far as well

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 04:13 AM

Good to hear

According to ahmayk's guidelines there should be 5-6 areas

So I think we will probably do 5 areas plus a bonus 6th that you can moveinstant to or something

But obviously I'll need to hash that out with pop

Minamitsu Murasa 08-Jun-21 04:14 AM

Sounds like a plan

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 04:18 AM

Man what a lineup

Now the question is who will our npcs be...............

Vriska Serket 08-Jun-21 07:22 AM

everything lookin interesting so far

Undyne 08-Jun-21 05:58 PM

Sorry been doing stuff today if you can call tonight about it all I'd be down (edited)

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 06:28 PM

I'll be playing d&d tonight but I'll probably have some time after before you're done your shift

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 06:45 PM

@Undyne Meep is down to play gandalf as an NPC, are you cool with that?

Obviously he'll need something to do but I don't doubt we can find something

To me having the character carry over from mystery tower is too good of an opportunity to pass up

Undyne 08-Jun-21 06:46 PM

sure sounds good

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 06:56 PM

Nice

King Harkinian 08-Jun-21 07:23 PM

@Maerk welcome to the epic

Vriska Serket 08-Jun-21 07:35 PM

Maerk 08-Jun-21 07:40 PM

I am real

Yo

Vriska Serket 08-Jun-21 07:50 PM

Sup

Maerk 08-Jun-21 07:54 PM

Not much

Undyne 09-Jun-21 01:24 AM

Ping me when ur good spaceman

King Harkinian 09-Jun-21 01:24 AM

will do

King Harkinian 09-Jun-21 02:13 AM

Still in d&d but I think one of the main ways we could approach this is by listing different ways each character might be able to achieve their objective

And see what combinations of locations, items, or npcs could be used to ensure each character can do their thing

Undyne 09-Jun-21 02:22 AM

Ok

Just ez 4 me 2 call during work

King Harkinian 09-Jun-21 02:26 AM

Yeah we just finished our sesh

I can call in 10 mins

Undyne 09-Jun-21 02:53 AM

Ok

King Harkinian 09-Jun-21 02:53 AM

Good now?

King Harkinian 09-Jun-21 04:15 AM

alright just in case you forget where we left off when you're looking tomorrow, we covered ahmayk through maack

so the characters I added my own brief notes on are waffles through cam

(I'm not actually worried you'll forget I just want to have something here for posterity so the npcs see that we're chad responsible GMs and ended up having a successful call) (edited)

Undyne 09-Jun-21 11:12 PM

I'd be down for the rest of the list tonight if you are

King Harkinian 09-Jun-21 11:13 PM

Sure though it would have to be closer to the start of your shift this time, as I have another d&d campaign tonight which starts and ends later than the one I had last night

So I'd be able to have a 45 minute-ish call in about an hour

Undyne 09-Jun-21 11:58 PM

Okay just start the call when you want

King Harkinian 10-Jun-21 03:42 AM

Couple of post-call stray ideas I'm having:

-I think I do want the Librarian to be an NPC if we do the unseen university library, as long as we have some way for the person playing him to communicate

(if we have enough npc room)

-We should have a way for kelsier to overthrow elaida without killing her - this could potentially be discovering proof of her coup against siuan, and exposing that fact to Gandalf (who she'd have hidden that fact from previously when setting up the expo, and Gandalf would be pissed and boot her out)

holy crap

what if the central location is disney world

or wait hmm idk

I was thinking of it in relation to having that potential ip-broker npc but idk who that would be still

having it be someone related to disney world would be redundant bc mickey already represents disney

disney world magic kingdom would still be a funny idea for the central location but it's in a grey area bc dresden's apartment is kind of already supposed to be in the real world (edited)

though in a pinch the justification can be used that dresden's world is an alternate reality from ours

bc it is

actually

other idea I had

that I completely forgot about

I was thinking of having merlin in the game

but regardless of whether we do, the central location could be camelot

I guess the only issue there is it confuses the issue of who's the government that kelsier should overthrow

since technically king arthur's government would be located there

I was mainly thinking that it would be outside the castle and king arthur would not be there

I just thought the castle would be a good backdrop for a central hub and I think it would be cool to have merlin in the game (edited)

So depends if you think we can put it in and avoid having anyone think that's the government location

I do think having merlin could be cool bc some of the arthurian legends say that he lives through time backwards

So someone could play merlin and say vague things to imply he knows what will happen in the rest of the game

And also have no memory of the (chronologically) previous phases' events

it would be cool I think

but it's not necessary if we have no way to work it in with anything else

Maerk 10-Jun-21 04:34 AM

Hey well is it necessary for there to be only one over throwable government?

King Harkinian 10-Jun-21 02:51 PM

There could be multiple of course

But the problem is moreso that I don't care for making king arthur an npc

King Harkinian

-We should have a way for kelsier to overthrow elaida without killing her - this could potentially be discovering proof of her coup against siuan, and exposing that fact to Gandalf (who she'd have hidden that fact from previously when setting up the expo, and Gandalf would be pissed and boot her out)

Undyne 10-Jun-21 03:22 PM

thing is I don't think we should tie any objectives to figuring out info about wheel of time plot

I think having elaida be the amyrlin is fine but like having to use wot story info to overthrow her seems like a stretch

King Harkinian 10-Jun-21 03:24 PM

That is fair

Undyne 10-Jun-21 03:24 PM

camelot as a central area is not a bad idea

King Harkinian 10-Jun-21 03:24 PM

I was just thinking there could be some in game way for kelsier to find dirt on her (edited)

Rather than him having to specifically learn the wot plot

Maybe kelsier could channel brandon sanderson's meta knowledge of wot

(Kidding)

King Harkinian 11-Jun-21 01:58 AM

@Undyne If you want to call I can be on in 10 mins (edited)

Undyne 11-Jun-21 03:03 AM

Lesgo

Oh that was 1h ago lol

@King Harkinian still around?

King Harkinian 11-Jun-21 03:06 AM

Ye

King Harkinian 12-Jun-21 02:49 AM

just had zero creative energy today so hopefully I'll have more motivation tomorrow

Either way I'm good to have a call tomorrow

Undyne 12-Jun-21 02:14 PM

We'll see

Undyne 12-Jun-21 05:58 PM

@King Harkinian I'm around to call for the next few hours

For battler's blue truth I was thinking, what if he can post blue truth theories about any magical display and how it was done without magic, and at the end of the game if any of them are correct and he has shown that someone's magic wasn't real, the objective is won

Since in umineko what they often do is have battler shoot out a lot of blue truths, and then at the end of a chapter they're either confirmed or denied

For beatrice, I was thinking of a twist

So in game she says, in red, that all she says in red is the truth

But what if, since this isn't her gameboard, she actually hasn't said that yet, and she just says stuff in red that doesn't necessarily have to be true

However, if she at any point does say in red that all she says in red is the truth, she is locked into that and will be godkilled if she says falsehoods in red

The logic battle stuff can just be player driven

King Harkinian 12-Jun-21 06:08 PM

That sounds pretty good

I'll be on to call in a few minutes just gotta eat something

Undyne 12-Jun-21 06:09 PM

Actually I do too let me eat first

Undyne 12-Jun-21 06:42 PM

You around?

Undyne 12-Jun-21 06:54 PM

I think the last thing we need before starting to write the stuff out is the different magical abilities for each player

If they have their own ability + unique magic

King Harkinian 12-Jun-21 07:09 PM

@Undyne here now

Undyne 12-Jun-21 07:10 PM

Give me a sec

King Harkinian 12-Jun-21 07:12 PM

For sure

Undyne 12-Jun-21 07:13 PM

Alright I'm here

Undyne 12-Jun-21 07:56 PM

https://youtu.be/pDuuOp5aMxA

Suomen Luonto

Lintukaraoke: Peippo

Undyne 12-Jun-21 08:18 PM

Very productive tsitsitsitsit-sett-sett-sett-sett-sett-tsetsetsetse-tsatt-tsiteriidia

King Harkinian 12-Jun-21 09:15 PM

Lmao I didn't even realize you sent that in this chat instead of in DM

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 01:24 AM

Oh my gosh

So

You know how we had the idea that the needle challenge would be in the quidditch pitch

What if it is to catch the golden snitch

And the needle is inside the snitch

I had this idea at the very start of drafting a writeup for the quidditch pitch

The challenge here would be a) have to figure out that the needle is in the snitch b) have to get a broom to go up and catch it c) have to roll well or have help in order to catch it

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 03:09 AM

draft map layout

I've started the draft writeups on the doc

Undyne 13-Jun-21 10:16 AM

Sounds good to me

Undyne 13-Jun-21 02:07 PM

I wrote up beato's, battler's, and melia's magic

Aqua: Heals two hearts of HP for a player of your choosing. Flare: Deals two hearts of damage to a player of your choosing. Earth: Protects you from any actions done to you that phase. Wind: Allows you to teleport to any room you have previously been in. Bolt: Nullifies the action of a player of your choosing.

I went with these for melia

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 03:55 PM

Oh wow are those not kind of op

Or did I forget about some limitation on when she can use a power

Undyne 13-Jun-21 04:04 PM

Read it in the design doc

She has to first summon an orb

And then she can use it

Okay I should change it so that she can't resummon an orb until they're all used

She has to use them in the order she summons them

So if she summons earth, flare, wind

She can't use wind until she's used earth and flare

So it takes a lot of planning

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 04:21 PM

Ah ok cool

Sounds good then

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 09:15 PM

Ooh I found a nice use for dresden's apartment

this might help zel kill michael voldemort

I forgot this detail

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 09:24 PM

I'm writing up the Lab and damn now I want Bob the Skull to be in there

Too many good NPC ideas too little time

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 09:34 PM

Man I straight up love our choices for locations

They are all so good

Undyne 13-Jun-21 11:31 PM

@King Harkinian gonna be available in a bit for a call today, and gonna finish work early too so I might even join on pc

King Harkinian 13-Jun-21 11:42 PM

Cool

I have to drive back to my apartment from my parents' place so I

'm not 100% sure when I'll be available, but I'll try to find some time to call

Undyne 13-Jun-21 11:53 PM

Alright no worries

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 02:44 AM

@Undyne would you be able to call in 10 mins or so?

Undyne 14-Jun-21 02:47 AM

Yea

Heading home currently

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 03:00 AM

ok cool

Undyne 14-Jun-21 01:57 PM

Wrote the PSI powers and added a bit to the himiko ability

Vriska Serket 14-Jun-21 02:10 PM

uhh so what's the plan for NPCs

Undyne 14-Jun-21 02:11 PM

Oh we forgot to do that last night

so yeah we have them drafted basically I think I was waiting for spaceman to decide something

But might as well drop them now

So spaceman and I are gonna play NPCs through our GM accounts because who tf is gonna stop us

and that leaves the three of you

Meep I believe already signed up basically as gandalf so that's covered

and it leaves Draco Malfoy and the Unseen University librarian from discworld (who is an orangutan)

Malfoy is essentially there to explain the sitch in a quidditch pitch with some broken brooms and also works as the reincarnation of a vampire Zel has to kill

and the librarian is there to direct people to helpful information in the unseen university's library and also be funny monky

I believe this is what we decided on (spaceman wasn't sure if he was gonna play the librarian or not)

But I think we decided that it's better overall if spaceman plays Merlin

(who kind of lives through time backwards so it needs some consideration for the RP)

Vriska Serket 14-Jun-21 02:15 PM

I'll take the librarian i will CRY if I have to play as a harry potter character

Undyne 14-Jun-21 02:15 PM

and I play/posplay Elaida do Avriny a'Roihan

the current Amyrlin Seat of the White Tower

because that's one of the areas and we need a governmental figure

it has mild wheel of time spoilers but like for the 4th-ish book I guess

@Minamitsu Murasa I guess you're gonna play adult draco malfoy then

Vriska Serket 14-Jun-21 02:21 PM

also a general rundown on like everything would be appreciated cause i don't really have much idea what's going on is everything I need to know in the doc?

Undyne 14-Jun-21 02:23 PM

yeah should be

check the area descriptions for a concise look at the gameboard

basically every 2 phases there's a magic talent show in camelot, and the players need to impress the judges

so every other phase players have the chance to go to camelot to show their magical powers

other than that the structure is the same as any objective game

Minamitsu Murasa 14-Jun-21 02:26 PM

Idk who that is

Undyne 14-Jun-21 02:26 PM

that's fine he's a snobby high class bastard

not the most complex character to play

Minamitsu Murasa 14-Jun-21 02:27 PM

Good enough

Undyne 14-Jun-21 02:27 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/417147802649493514/853977131649073162/battler_gasstation.mp4 Clowder during this game be like

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 02:42 PM

Doesn't have to be adult draco malfoy btw

Also yeah we tried to think of literally anything other than a harry potter character but malfoy fit zel's criteria too well

Also u get to turn into some vampire guy if some condition is met

@Vriska Serket Btw if you want to play a more active role you could be merlin

We didn't conclusively decide that i should play him iirc

And he is the more intensive character to play compared to the librarian

It could be a fun challenge for you to rp the moving backwards thru time

Undyne 14-Jun-21 02:49 PM

I'd still like merlin to have an announcement role but I guess that's a minor thing

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 02:49 PM

@Minamitsu Murasa also if you play young draco instead of adult, you get to talk about how much you hate Harry Potter

Minamitsu Murasa

Idk who that is

Vriska Serket 14-Jun-21 02:50 PM

youre free of the curse of harry potter.... I envy you

when you talk about Merlin, do you mean any specific incarnation? or just the general Arthurian merlin

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 02:52 PM

You could do any spin on merlin you want

the only thing we really wanted to use is the moving backwards through time thing

Vriska Serket 14-Jun-21 02:53 PM

Ooh ok,,, I'm down for that it sounds fun

just have to be vague and ominous in the early phases

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 02:54 PM

Indeed

You also get to say "welcome everybody to the interdimensional wizarding expo! You all had a great time!"

Minamitsu Murasa 14-Jun-21 02:56 PM

Fuck Harry Potter all my homies hate Harry Potter

I'll have to read up more on this guy later

Undyne 14-Jun-21 04:30 PM

hmm should I work on the game tonight or should I get high since I don't have to worry about drug tests at work

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 04:44 PM

valid question

Vriska Serket 14-Jun-21 04:44 PM

why not both

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 04:44 PM

Valid answer

Undyne 14-Jun-21 04:45 PM

actually relevant

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 04:45 PM

LMAO

Undyne 14-Jun-21 04:56 PM

before I'm out of commission I'm gonna take the screenshot for the white tower

bro @King Harkinian I would love to screenshare you the game if you have time just to show how cool it is

King Harkinian 14-Jun-21 04:57 PM

Ok sure I'm going on lunch now anyway

Undyne 14-Jun-21 04:57 PM

oh shit cool

Undyne 14-Jun-21 05:18 PM

Undyne 14-Jun-21 05:25 PM

Undyne 14-Jun-21 06:14 PM

avocados

from mexico

Vriska Serket 14-Jun-21 06:15 PM

King Harkinian 15-Jun-21 02:58 AM

Did we end up figuring out a 3rd program for superb to be able to install

Undyne 15-Jun-21 10:07 AM

Oh yeah I don't think so, do we have to?

Undyne 15-Jun-21 10:42 AM

One thing that's important I think is giving cath some knowledge of the needle being in the quiddich thing

maybe that could be found in the library

I could add something in the role DM about that, like "maybe you should start by seeking information" etc

Speaking of, I'm gonna start finalizing the DMs now

Ho, a magical show? And they even invited me? Of course I must participate, this sounds delightful! I’ll show them the meaning of the Golden Witch… at least it’ll keep the boredom at bay for a while. I do wonder what my toy’s face would look like if he saw this. Player: Ahmaykmewsik Character: Beatrice Objective 1: Impress the judges at the magical talent show. Objective 2: Win a logic battle against another player. A logic battle is a battle of wits between two players with two conflicting statements of truth. The battle is won when either a player surrenders or contradicts themselves, making the other the winner. Ability: Red Text You have the Golden Witch’s ability to say things in red. What, were you expecting something else? This is not your familiar gameboard, therefore you have not yet said what saying things in red means. If you at any point publicly state what saying things in red means, IN RED, that rule will be held in effect for the rest of the game at risk of godkill if you misuse it. Magic: Golden Magic You are the Golden Witch, and you use Golden Magic. What, were you expecting something else? This is not your familiar gameboard, therefore your magic is unequivocally real. You have the ability to restore and levitate objects. You can also turn into a swarm of golden butterflies to avoid any physical actions towards you, however you cannot use this spell twice in a row.

I'm making this our template

I think one thing to consider is the fact that there's not really a consistency with every character having one ability and one magic type, there's some that just have an ability, some that just have a magic, some that have a skill and ability

But to be honest I don't see that as a problem, thinking of like tabletop games because often times there's characters that are less complex and ones that are more complex

It's just about balancing

@King Harkinian looking at ellen's dm, her "magic" is just the disease

how is she gonna impress the judges

In general I've always had the mind to let players to use their magic outside of the direct use they have

like if there's a water magic that heals, it can also be used to put on a pretty waterbending show

Anyway I finalized 7 role DMs

King Harkinian 15-Jun-21 02:30 PM

Yeah i was pretty tired yesterday and didn't have a ton of time so a lot of what I wrote I'll need to revise today

Undyne 15-Jun-21 07:45 PM

What's the situation on the rest of the DMs?

King Harkinian 15-Jun-21 07:48 PM

Working on it

Wrote Tarhiel's

Trying to improve Ellen's

Undyne 15-Jun-21 07:52 PM

Gotcha

Undyne 15-Jun-21 08:02 PM

I'm gonna go to sleep early tonight because I have an early alarm tomorrow so idk if I'll be around to post the DMs

I'll start doing the bot setup in advance

King Harkinian 15-Jun-21 08:18 PM

Ok awesome thanks

I will be able to post the DMs

Undyne 15-Jun-21 08:18 PM

cool

Undyne 15-Jun-21 08:30 PM

@King Harkinian what were we going to do with money for players again?

how do players get money to buy stuff from 404?

I feel like if they don't have some cash from the start they don't really have an incentive to look for money

King Harkinian 15-Jun-21 08:31 PM

Well we could give them each a certain amount of money at the game start when they get their starting items

And just include some flavour in the announcement that they get some money based on the area where they've arrived

Undyne 15-Jun-21 08:32 PM

yeah I think that's what we should do

King Harkinian 15-Jun-21 08:32 PM

But I also think we could have money as a super easy thing to find for any investigation action

Undyne 15-Jun-21 08:32 PM

yeah

we should just create stock money items for each area

and just give each player the one that corresponds to their starting location

King Harkinian 15-Jun-21 08:38 PM

Yeah agreed

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 12:11 AM

Alright so I'm reviewing the mysterybot docs and the whole currency thing is definitely gonna be a pain with the current item command set

But we will make it work

One way we could do it is have an item for each player's money, e.g. "installshieldmoney, wizardmoney, lichmoney" and update them whenever there's a transaction

Rather than having items representing each amount of money independently (edited)

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 01:07 AM

asdf asdf

successful test

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 01:48 AM

Ok just need to finalize -knight -zel -brine -ori

Well

brine is done but I need @Undyne to look at it tomorrow morning to make sure it's balanced

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 02:37 AM

Alright it's time to read up on draco

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 02:48 AM

He is even more of an asshole than I thought he was wew lads

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:51 AM

I'll give u guys summaries for your characters and your roles in the game too so don't worry

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 02:53 AM

Cool

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:23 AM

Ok I'm running late bc I forgot i had to schedule for siiva tomorrow

But

Just buffed ori's magic (assuming that's fine bc pop was worried about them not having enough cool magic to do before) so that's good now

I added brine's as well but not gonna send it to them tonight bc I want pop to make sure it's fair

I do want them to be pretty strong

But not too strong

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:17 AM

Ok update I felt some chest pain that wasn't going away and ER is the only thing open rn so I am there.

I'll send dms tomorrow morning

I'll type out npc stuff while I wait

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 05:19 AM

Hope everything is all good

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:19 AM

Hope so too

Been feeling it intermittently over the past 2 weeks and was going to get called by a cardiologist soon for an appt but this was the firsr time it wasn't just a momentary thing

I'll start with u pablo

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 05:24 AM

Bet

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:57 AM

Draco Malfoy Dumbledore was part of organizing this whole thing, but you and that oaf Potter got in an altercation and you got sent out here to 'represent Hogwarts'. What rubbish. Anyway, you've got nothing but a couple of busted-up brooms to look after while these foreign 'wizards' visit. Maybe you can at least tell them about the cool new next-gen Nimbus 5000 your father bought you - if only it had been enchanted correctly and wasn't sitting here completely inert. But if the Seventh Needle gets pulled out of the Golden Snitch, you become... Michael Roa Valdamjong The ancient vampire and Dead Apostle Ancestor of numerous reincarnations, you have finally awakened in your latest host. You will stop at nothing short of killing all who surround you and turning them into your Dead servants, unless a certain agent of the Church can destroy you once and for all.

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@Minamitsu Murasa

The vampire thing is for zel's objective (edited)

Merlin The legendary wizard who trained King Arthur - or will train him? - you possess the peculiar trait of living backwards through time. Despite this, you've found a way to interact with everyone else, and you're one of the main organizers of IWX. You primarily stay in the vicinity of Camelot, which you've set up as the hub of the expo.

@Vriska Serket

And finally

Gandalf You're mostly free to wander as you always do. However, you may offer help to characters who ask, and you can seek to berate and eventually even attack those who try to screw up the expo. If Ellen mentions her illness/curse around you, you may offer that if she does something of noble heart, through your power her illness may be cured. (edited)

@Maerk

Maerk 16-Jun-21 06:04 AM

Oh hi cool ok

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:05 AM

Oh shit spaceman keep an eye on yourself

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:06 AM

Thx

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:06 AM

If you don't feel good we can postpone or I can take the reins for the start

I was thinking we can just... DM people the money they have manually lol

And just keep a log of it in the excel (edited)

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:07 AM

I'm fine now but I did a diagnostic test and am now waiting for... something? I just want to go home and sleep now tbh

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:08 AM

Yeah it's later for you than usual

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:08 AM

Yeah

I already had bad sleeps the last 2 nights

Wanted to sleep early tn

Body had other plans I guess

At least I'm talking to a sleep therapist starting next week

Anyway

I was writing zel's abilities when this happened so his role isn't done

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Ciel (edited)

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:09 AM

I can finish it up if you want

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:09 AM

Sure

I think u can get a sense of what i was going for

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:10 AM

Probably

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:10 AM

Aside from that, just see if brines role is balanced or not in your opinion

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:10 AM

I actually have a doctor calling at some point today myself for my nerve pain

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:10 AM

Oh dang

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:10 AM

That doesn't affect my ability to host though it's just a mobility thing

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:11 AM

Yeah

Only other role thing is daffy

I felt like it'd be boring if he can give out his cards super quick and then just do a trick for the talent show, so I tried to add some more challenge but idk if it will work or not

So it may be best to just revert it

Idk

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:13 AM

We'll see

I'll finesse my way out of bed (which is surprisingly hard with sciatica) and take a shower and then take a look

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:14 AM

Cool

And man sorry ur in so much pain (edited)

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:15 AM

It should go away in like 2 months at least but they can prescribe painkillers

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:15 AM

Damn yeah

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:35 AM

Okay let me take a look

sadly with my leg I really don't feel up for going to try on red dresses

so I'll just go with my hornet fit instead with the red coat and skirt

@King Harkinian I really don't know what you're doing with the mystic eyes of whisper tbh so I'm gonna leave that unfinished and write the other abilities instead

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:45 AM

Aight

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:46 AM

at the start of the game we should just do some rp to announce the mechanics of the talent show

do you want to end this in 12 or 14 phases?

brine's game was 13 so I feel like 14 might be a bit excessive

It already felt pretty extensive to me

Baptism Sacrament: By exorcising the demons from another player, you nullify their action if it is done in an evil or selfish motive, and force their action to be kind to others instead. If the action is not evil or selfish, this does nothing. (edited)

is this fine

I think it would be fun

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:59 AM

okay I wrote up ciel aside from the one spell you were doing

gonna check lich now

I feel like it should be 1.5 hearts and not a whole two

for the fireball

oh yeah and daffy

yeah I think this is fine he can make more at elaida's desk or something

I also changed the one melia attack to be 1.5 hearts

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 07:04 AM

pog

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:05 AM

aside from that I think we just need to finish that one single spell for zel and then we're done

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:08 AM

ok ill help 2mrw once i'm up

going to bed now

it was gonna be another couple of hours before I could see a doctor so I dipped since my ecg had come back clear

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:10 AM

alright glad it seems okay

have a good night

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:12 AM

Nite

Undyne 16-Jun-21 11:39 AM

Good day, wizards and other magical participants in the Interdimensional Wizarding Expo. I am Elaida do Avriny a'Roihan, Watcher of the Seals, the Flame of Tar Valon, the Amyrlin Seat. My other host here is... well. (spaceman do monky funny) Anyway, we are two of the four officials that will be overlooking the Magical Talent Show. This competition will be held in Camelot on every other phase, starting on phase 2. You will have the chance to provide practical demonstrations of your prowess to the judges, and everyone else in the expo will see them as well. You may attempt a performance as many times as you want. Aside from this, you are free to traverse through the expo premises through our convenient network of portals as you wish. The expo will last a total of 12 phases, ending with the final talent performances. Get your business done before then.

@King Harkinian how's this for an opening announcement script

I'll write up the currency chart now

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 11:41 AM

Good

Undyne 16-Jun-21 11:41 AM

also remember to add the lab image

when you can

I mean camelot

Currency exchange: 1 G equals… 5 US Dollars 0.5 Tar Valon Gold Coins 2 Golden Galleons 3 Ankh-Morpork Dollars

this okay?

oh wait camelot currency uhhhhh

Currency exchange: 1 G equals… 1 Camelot Gold Coin 5 US Dollars 0.5 Tar Valon Gold Coins 2 Golden Galleons 3 Ankh-Morpork Dollars

and for the starting areas camelot: 3 Camelot Gold Coins apartment: 15 USD tower: 1.5 Tar Valon Gold Coins pitch: 6 Golden Galleons library: 9 Ankh-Morpork Dollars

okay let me put people into the starting areas now

Undyne 16-Jun-21 12:30 PM

call that a popsplay

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 01:50 PM

damn lookin good

oh shit i need to find a pfp

might just use a shitty wizard tbh

Undyne 16-Jun-21 01:52 PM

but you're merlin

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 01:52 PM

yeah ik

Undyne 16-Jun-21 01:52 PM

bbc merlin

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 01:52 PM

shitty wizardry has nothing to do with your actual wizardry skill, it's an aesthetic choice

I've never seen bbc merlin but most depictions of merlin I've seen heavily channel shitty wizardry

Undyne 16-Jun-21 01:53 PM

alright you go with your heart

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 01:53 PM

or i might just find a screencap of BBC merlin

I'll do some investigation later

Undyne 16-Jun-21 01:54 PM

god I forgot how lanky this guy was

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 01:56 PM

that's merlin??? what the fuck

Undyne 16-Jun-21 01:58 PM

Yeah that's merlin BBC

he's a young merlin of course to be hip with the tumblr crowd

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 02:00 PM

he's not even a sexyman

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:06 PM

Oh you'd be surprised

young king arthur is the resident sexyman don't worry

oh man I just realized I've done 3 wheel of time popsplays already and spaceman has yet to play even one character

I'm absolutely yoinking these picks

gonna do the starting areas now

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:17 PM

Gahhh I was finally sleeping in but I forgot my building had a firedrill scheduled at 9am

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:17 PM

(I did randomly but then I realized that sucks so I'll do some random groups and adjust them so that no one's alone) (edited)

wow nice

that's sarcasm that's not nice

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:17 PM

Yea

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:18 PM

should I just do 4 groups so that people spawn everywhere that's not camelot?

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:19 PM

Ppl can spawn in Camelot imo

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:19 PM

alright that'd be a balanced 3 people in each room

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:19 PM

Yea

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:19 PM

so let's see

brine shouldn't spawn in the apartment

because they'll see the life cereal immediately

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:20 PM

Are starting areas normally picked manually?

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:20 PM

pizzie shouldn't spawn in the pitch

it depends this time we should do manual

aside from that I think we're good

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:20 PM

Fair

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:21 PM

and cam shouldn't spawn in the tower

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:21 PM

Yeah

Undyne 16-Jun-21 02:21 PM

that should be good

we can just send this after we send out the DMs

oh yeah and zel not in the pitch

Okay got it

I think the only thing left to do is for you to finish the mystic eyes of whisper thought

and then we're good

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 02:52 PM

Yeah

Did you have any thoughts on daffy regarding what I said before

I'm officially "awake" now so just gonna shower then I'll do my finishing touches

I'll create starting items and such as well

Tarhiel has 3 blank scrolls, Kelsier has 10 empty vials, do we want them to have an item representing those or should they just be told that (and have items created when they fill the stuff out)

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:03 PM

Daffy is fine

You could make the items yeah

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:19 PM

Cool

Quickly updated brine's role to specify that the possession roll is contested by the other player's action roll

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:24 PM

Gotcha

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:28 PM

@Undyne whaddaya think of this for mystic eyes

Mystic Eyes of Whisper: You can manipulate others to listen to you, as long as they do not have direct evidence to contradict your words. As an action, you can repeat something you said during the current phase, and have a 60% chance of forcing your target character to believe it as true. Going forward, the player must act as if they know what you said to be true.

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:28 PM

I think people will play along yeah

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:29 PM

If they ever get direct evidence to contradict it then it becomes null and void

so they don't have to pretend something is true that they know is false

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:29 PM

We need to amend it then

Can the contradiction be found later

And then it stops?

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:29 PM

Yeah I'll move the 'direct evidence' thing to later and then mention that

yeah that's what I was imagining

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:29 PM

Alright

I think the last important read through is to have a think if everyone has a chance to 'impress the judges' with in game actions

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:30 PM

Mystic Eyes of Whisper: You can manipulate others to listen to what you say. As an action, you can repeat something you said during the current phase, and have a 60% chance of forcing your target character to believe it as true. Going forward, the player must act as if they know what you said to be true. If the player has or ever gains evidence that directly contradicts your words, this effect is nullified.

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:30 PM

Yeah sure

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:30 PM

Yeah that's largely why I gave Ellen the ability to manipulate nature

Bc camelot happens to be the only area with nature

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:30 PM

In general I'd say people can use abilities and non-magical actions creatively

They could do a kick flip

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:31 PM

yeah lmao

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:31 PM

If they find a skateboard

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:31 PM

For Daffy I'll say if he rolls high enough, other people might see his action as magical

Like 18 or higher

or smth

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:31 PM

Alright then

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:31 PM

or 17+

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:31 PM

Idk if that defeats the point

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:32 PM

Kind of and kind of not

most of the time he will still look like he's doing something normal

We can word the description somewhat vaguely if he rolls that high (edited)

As if no one is truly sure what daffy just did

Also I gave Ciel +5 to physical weapons

bc that's what she prefers to use

If we keep Daffy as is should he be able to get more business cards printed at the library or smth? @Undyne

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:35 PM

Yeah def

Or make some at elaida's

King Harkinian

As if no one is truly sure what daffy just did

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:35 PM

I guess that can work

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:36 PM

Cool

Alright

I THINK that's everyone

gonna double check all profiles

Also

@Minamitsu Murasa if anyone asks while you're draco, you can tell them you hear a strange voice in your head sometimes

since apparently the vampire begins to manifest gradually before taking over

but don't go spouting off willy nilly about that

we just want zel to be able to figure it out if he's clever enough to ask

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 03:39 PM

hhh my computer is currently having a meltdown my pfp may be a bit late

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:40 PM

No worries lol

Game starts in over 2 hours still

Also yeah gonna reduce lich damage to 1.5 hearts

Still makes it a 2 hit kill but less likely to 1hit someone who's already damaged

O neat that's already been changed

Thx pop

Undyne 16-Jun-21 03:47 PM

Way ahead of you

1

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 03:54 PM

@Undyne Should we send roles manually or with the !sendprofiles command

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:00 PM

Sendprofiles is prolly fine but it would mean the DMs and money counts are from different accounts

So maybe manually

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:03 PM

Ok cool

Want to do half and half or should one of us do all of em

Also we should track money in the spreadsheet

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:07 PM

We should indeed

One person should do it all I think

Or at least the same person sends the DM and money

I'll be home in 10 min

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:09 PM

We could split the playerbase roughly half and half between us and just have the same person send both to their set of players

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:10 PM

Yeah

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:18 PM

I'll do ahmayk, cathode, clowder, 404, waffles, zel, and suds

cause those ones I had the most influence in writing so it's better for me to take their questions

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:19 PM

Ok sick

that leaves me with pizzie, superb, brine, ori, maack, snowva, knight, and cam

Shall we get started?

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:20 PM

sure

hold on

let's have a standardized message for the money

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:20 PM

damane

(the money)

show me damane

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:20 PM

I'm not a sul'dam

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:21 PM

oh also before we start

I must share a stupid ass phrase that popped into my head

you know the quote "when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die"

well

I was just visited by "when you turn the wheel of time, you come or you pass"

my brain is shriveling by the minute

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:22 PM

-2

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:22 PM

ok so

money message be like

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:22 PM

read the doc

howbout we just copypaste those

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:22 PM

Sure

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:23 PM

I need to open this doc twice for easy access

oh you're coloring yours?

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:23 PM

yeah

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:23 PM

lesgo

1

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:24 PM

ok

Shall we?

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:24 PM

im going

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:25 PM

nice

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:27 PM

done

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:30 PM

Nice

Sent all dms, just gonna send money now

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:32 PM

I sent the money immediately afterwards because I'm a pro

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:34 PM

Chad

Alright everybody is accounted for

Imma change pfp now

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:41 PM

cool

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:41 PM

I'll create the starting items then I'm gonna lay down for a sec lmao

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:42 PM

take your time

I had to give ahmayk a lengthy explanation about the red text

but he understands now and thinks it's dope

@King Harkinian imporant thing, if anyone asks us about ahmayk's red text, we'll say "GMs will not discuss any character abilities in the game currently"

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:45 PM

Oooo alrighty

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:45 PM

but once a red text rule has been done by ahmayk either you or I will publicly acknowledge it

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:45 PM

Fosho

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:45 PM

just like "this rule has been acknowledged"

he'll probably contact whichever of us is online

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:47 PM

Yeah

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:48 PM

I was thinking of doing the pregame announcement like 5-10 minutes before game start

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:50 PM

Sounds good

@Vriska Serket post your pfp source image right now

in here or wherever

yardy know exactly what I am going to post under it

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 04:55 PM

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:55 PM

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 04:55 PM

SKDSKDAKSDK

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:55 PM

Merlin took the fry

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:56 PM

yeeaaaaa lmaooooo

hold on

@King Harkinian post a pic of you just standing normally

please

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:57 PM

Like me irl?

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:57 PM

yeah

if you have any on hand

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:58 PM

Undyne 16-Jun-21 04:58 PM

thanks brilliant get back to you in 10 minutes

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 04:58 PM

Lmao

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:25 PM

suds — Today at 7:25 PM Oh another thing do people who sign the contract know that they take damage from not listening to me

@King Harkinian what do you think?

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:26 PM

They should yes

So they know they need to listen to him or face a penalty

BUT

They only find out after signing

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:26 PM

should we inform them like in a DM?

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:26 PM

Yes

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:26 PM

aite

I already told suds he doesn't need to say it's an IP selling contract

he can just bullshit whatever

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:27 PM

Yeah

You are now property of Walt Disney Co.! You must comply with any demands given by Mickey Mouse on a given phase, or lose 1 heart.

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:28 PM

is that in the doc

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 05:30 PM

suds really out here like

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:51 PM

I'll add it to the doc

Oh also

I should clarify that for Ellen, this part:

As such, your patron demon has granted you a “cure”: if another character consents, you may switch bodies with them. You are not bound by the terms of any agreement you may have made with them beforehand.

Only applies to terms of the agreement that are not in writing

thus if mickey swaps bodies with her and gets her to sign a contract, she is legally bound by whatever is in the contract

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:54 PM

sure

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:54 PM

Should I make a clarification to ori (without being too specific so it's not an obvious hint about mickey) (edited)

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:55 PM

go ahead

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:55 PM

coo

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:55 PM

we could do the announcement afterwards

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:55 PM

Yep

Ok

Ready

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:57 PM

cool

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

oh damn i forgot to reply to the 12 or 14 phases thing

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

I say 12 is good because 13 was brine's game

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

12 should be fine but we should reserve the right to increase to 14 if necessary

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

we can

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

Or 13

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

but I doubt we have to

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

magic number 13

Undyne 16-Jun-21 05:59 PM

we'll see

are we ready to gamestart

@King Harkinian

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:02 PM

yeet

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:03 PM

go ahead

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:03 PM

sweet

Damn it created earlogs globally

not good

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:03 PM

gonna make an earlog category

nah they're not global

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:06 PM

Hmm it didn't ping snowva

for tower

but they are there

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:06 PM

weird

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:06 PM

You can fix cus ur there

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:06 PM

yeah

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 06:06 PM

am i supposed to be in an area

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:06 PM

yeah in camelot

OH

uhh

I'll add you

I think we forgot to add NPCs as players

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:07 PM

yeah i was about to ask about that

I was trying to figure out how it was done in past games

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:08 PM

wait where's meep

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:09 PM

anywhere

can be in apartment

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:09 PM

yeah meep can move around ok

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:09 PM

since ur in tower and im in library

let's make ourselves players as well

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:09 PM

yeah

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:10 PM

@Vriska Serket remember to have fun with the time thing whenever there's a funny/interesting way to work it in

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:10 PM

you should say "it was a fun one! oh wait, it hasn't happened for you yet" or something

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:10 PM

Yeah lmao

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 06:11 PM

hehe yeah was planning on

wasnt sure whether to give it away immediately or keep it a little mysterious

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:14 PM

@King Harkinian is the strangely blurred bit in the tower description a jab at the game's skybox

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:14 PM

oh no it was supposed to be about how the areas are sectioned off into temporary bubble universes

We should make that clear at some point somehow

Or at least have a way for brine to find that out

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:15 PM

Oh yeah

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:17 PM

If someone moveinstants to the lab does it automatically make a channel?

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:17 PM

It should

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:17 PM

cool

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:18 PM

Also I had to manually add pablo and meep and lilith but it should function fine from now on

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:18 PM

nice

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:29 PM

fairly quiet so far

I expect it will pick up soon enough

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:30 PM

I went to look for the white tower ost on youtube for banger chat but got this blunt force trauma in my cranium instead

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:33 PM

holy CRAp lmao

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 06:43 PM

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:44 PM

How do we enable spectator role to see game channels

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:44 PM

they don't have to

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:44 PM

Right

bc they can see earlogs

It just occurred to me that they shouldn't appear in game channels so that checks out

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:45 PM

better keep it that way

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 06:45 PM

yeah

Maerk 16-Jun-21 06:51 PM

Of course malfoy prefers apex legends

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 06:51 PM

if i was truly evil i would have said pubg

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:56 PM

@Minamitsu Murasa you should make it clear these are new untested models of brooms

that await finalization

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 06:56 PM

they can't fly right?

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:56 PM

they can't

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 06:56 PM

cool

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:56 PM

but the point is pizzie would help make them fly for her objective

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 06:57 PM

done

Undyne 16-Jun-21 06:57 PM

yeah I mean just keep that in mind for the rp

oh yeah we should announce a rollover time

is 1pm est good for you?

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:01 PM

@Minamitsu Murasa You probably have some limited understanding of the fact that the areas are temporarily sectioned off into their own bubble universes, connected by portals

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:01 PM

that should go for lilith and meep

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:01 PM

So you might be able to hint at something like that to the lich, vaguely

1pm est works for me

Also lmao that maack's first conversation target is the least talkative character in the game

I think I'll make it canon that Ankh-Morpork Dollars are made of bronze

So that Kelsier can use them to find other metals

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:03 PM

Alright

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:03 PM

Should I tell him that or is there some way for him to find out on his own

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 07:04 PM

uhhhh whats 1pm est in bri'ain time

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:04 PM

5pm

no wait

6pm

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 07:04 PM

ah that works

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:04 PM

uhh spaceman that's a good question

I mean ideally he'd inspect the metals he has

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:05 PM

What he has rn is gold

I'm not sure he has any way of knowing that there's another type of currency that's bronze

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:05 PM

well he doesn't have it

so there's no reason to do anything yet

we'll see if it becomes relevant

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:05 PM

yeah

Should I give him a file so that he can scrape off flakes of metal

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:07 PM

I guess

I just assumed he had some way of scanning materials

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:07 PM

I think I was planning to before but forgot

He does but it's quite vague

Unless he has bronze then it's strong

Even with the ability to scan for metals he still needs to be able to scrape off flakes of it

So that he can consume it

I'll at least clarify that he has some level of allomantic sense even without bronze

Do you agree

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:09 PM

sure

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:15 PM

Should I give him the file

Idk how else he is supposed to get metals into a state he can consume

Unless you think he should have to search for one

I just feel like that adds more difficulty than needed

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:20 PM

give him the file sure

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:21 PM

ok cool

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:21 PM

wait fuuuuuuuck

I forgot

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:21 PM

?

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:21 PM

superb is gonna get his objective phase 1

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:21 PM

yeah

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:21 PM

for installing the flight program onto the broom

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:21 PM

well

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:22 PM

should it be that the brooms aren't functioning for an installation yet

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:22 PM

he sent as his action grab me one of em brooms them dang ol brooms them diddly brooms

unless he changes it that doesn't imply installation

Also

I implied in my description that I gave to pablo that only one of the brooms is the Nimbus 5000

And the rest are just inactive normal brooms

If we go with that, then his roll of 6 would get him one of the incompatible brooms

If we don't go with that, then he still has to specify that he will install the software into the broom

I didn't infer that at all from the action he sent until he posted his message in #p1-pitch

Undyne 16-Jun-21 07:24 PM

alright you can resolve that

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:25 PM

Ok

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:38 PM

oh Also

Remember

His objective is to install a program for someone

If he's just installing programs willy nilly it doesn't count

He has to find out from malfoy that the nimbus 5000 isn't operational, then make it clear that he can fix it with his installation of the software so that he is actually installing it for malfoy

Also

there is currently no way for him to abort an installation, or uninstall a program

So if he blows an installation on something that no one has asked for, that's it

He'll have to try his next program (edited)

Minamitsu Murasa 16-Jun-21 07:52 PM

Just dropped in and mentioned the nimbus

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 07:54 PM

good move

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 09:50 PM

Damn should've done my due diligence and realized that terraria wizard's spell tomes are blank

If that had been the case I wouldn't have given tarhiel 3 blank scrolls to start

I assumed they'd contain a randomized spell

Been too long since I played terraria

Undyne 16-Jun-21 09:51 PM

Oh huh

Me too

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 09:52 PM

Oh well I guess it's not the end of the world but it would've been more fun if tarhiel had to buy a tome off the wizard to enchant

Can't do much now

Undyne 16-Jun-21 09:53 PM

What about the other items he sells

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 09:53 PM

I was planning to have them be similar to their terraria equivalents but we should probably tell that to 404

So he knows he can vaguely advertise what they do

We could always make the tomes have actual randomized spells but idk

Undyne 16-Jun-21 09:57 PM

Yeah we could why not

If that synergizes with pizzie

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 09:58 PM

I'd hate to make 404 contradict himself but it would definitely be more interesting

Especially since mickey can also cast from spellbooks

Undyne 16-Jun-21 09:58 PM

We should do that

It's only phase 1

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 09:58 PM

Yeah

I'll tell him

Or

You can since you sent his dm

Your call

Wdyt

Undyne 16-Jun-21 10:02 PM

You should tell him I'm boutta sleep

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 10:02 PM

Ok will do

Have a good night

Undyne 16-Jun-21 10:02 PM

Thanks you too

1

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 10:40 PM

uhh theres a question idk how to answer in camelot

Do the judges always have a view of every talent show, even if they aren't in the area?

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 10:44 PM

Yep

In fact all players will be able to view the talent show spectacle

It will be broadcast through magical means (i.e. posted in #announcements)

Sorry for not clarifying that earlier, it's something me and pop had agreed on in VC a while back

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 10:45 PM

ah ok, ty

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 10:47 PM

#camelot won't be visible to all, but all talent-show-relevant happenings will be shared to all

So basically any rollover stuff that pertains to the talent show

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 10:48 PM

ye that's what I assumed

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 10:48 PM

so u should correct ahmayk

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 11:26 PM

btw relevant https://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comic.php?current=3911

Vriska Serket 16-Jun-21 11:28 PM

oh god time travel tenses

The hitchhiker's guide section on that gave me enough of a headache

King Harkinian 16-Jun-21 11:29 PM

hahaha

Undyne 17-Jun-21 02:47 PM

I told maack he can tell people he wants to make friends but not the qualifications

Undyne 17-Jun-21 03:11 PM

Sending action requests

@Maerk @Vriska Serket @Minamitsu Murasa please send some actions no need for movement

Minamitsu Murasa 17-Jun-21 03:12 PM

Can't

The GM has already processed your movement manually. If you wish to change your action, please consult your GM.

Undyne 17-Jun-21 03:13 PM

Oh okay that was the forcemove

Well just send us what you wanna do no roll needed

Minamitsu Murasa 17-Jun-21 03:14 PM

I'll just take the nimbus

Undyne 17-Jun-21 03:14 PM

Like you'll hold it?

We can make it a big item then

Vriska Serket 17-Jun-21 03:18 PM

how do my actions work with time shit

do my actions proc and then i move back a phase?

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 03:25 PM

No you can still submit actions normally

For the sake of simplicity, the time stuff works on a phase-by-phase basis, so next phase you can pretend that you have no memory of doing your action from this phase

So Wizard, Yu, Mickey, Melia, and Battler need action reminders

Or wait no u already sent them pop

Ok good

Everyone on the pitch has submitted an action so we can probably start prepping rollover there

Undyne 17-Jun-21 03:35 PM

Alright

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 03:36 PM

KELSIER [Cameron]: [7] look for some sweet sweet metals

THE LICH [Brinelex Brine]: [19] examine the small golden object in the air to determine if it is a powerful item

INSTALLSHIELD WIZARD [Superb]: [6] grab me one of em brooms them dang ol brooms them diddly brooms

And Draco is taking his nimbus

Normally that would be contested but superb rolled low enough that the broom he grabs will not be the nimbus

Vriska Serket 17-Jun-21 03:39 PM

literally have no idea what to do for my action it's like roleplay wise my final phase ig

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 03:41 PM

You can do whatever

One thing that occurred to me

Is that we need a way for Ciel to kill Roa, and I believe maybe we can introduce Excalibur as a weapon she can use

It could show up as a normal sword in the shed in Camelot at first, but then you (Merlin) could have the ability to remove the illusion to show it for what it truly is

We also have garlic and holy water in the Apartment, so maybe Ciel needs a combination of the three

Also we need to create a roll table for what spells the spell tomes contain

So for a 7, Kelsier should obviously detect the gold he is carrying, but there's truthfully not much else in the pitch area for him to find even if he'd rolled well

Undyne 17-Jun-21 03:48 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 03:48 PM

He could detect vague traces of metal in Draco's broom handle, but not enough to form a full allomantic charge

For a 19, the Lich should be able to observe that it is a small golden ball the size of one's hand, and be able to sense power emanating from within it (since the needle is inside it)

Things are gonna get wacky if the lich pulls the needle early

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:04 PM

@Minamitsu Murasa can u send your action to mysterybot like you would as a player

So that it generates a roll

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:12 PM

He can't

He already said that

Due to the forcemove

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:12 PM

oh

ah ok

I'll just roll on random.org for him

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:12 PM

And the needle can't be pulled before the broom is fixed

OR

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:12 PM

he got a 17

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:13 PM

Masked man can use psi magnet

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:13 PM

ahhh nice

Ok cool

So should kelsier also detect faint traces of metal from the snitch

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:13 PM

Well

I mean

It's made of metal

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:13 PM

yeah lol

Ok so

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:13 PM

Brass?

You can rollover pitch if you want

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:14 PM

Brass with gold trim exterior

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:14 PM

Right

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:15 PM

Alright

is there a command to lock or do I have to do it manually

I'll describe actions in roll order

The Lich peers up into the sky, unnatural eyes narrowed. They catch sight of the object fluttering far above, and gaze at it for some time. Draco promptly picks up his Nimbus 5000 broom, holding it close to himself possessively. He looks at the others with an imperious frown. Kelsier stands still and closes his eyes. He tilts his head in concentration, as if trying to sense something. The InstallShield Wizard grabs one of the brooms on the ground. It's not nearly as nice as Draco's, but it's not nothing.

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:25 PM

Yeah you just say lock

You don't have to describe the actions so in depth before you do them

If you are uncertain ask but other than that we can just go ahead and do it

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:26 PM

Alright cool

Should we split rollovers for each area

I guess there is an odd number of areas but we can alternate

I guess I'm already doing pitch and I'll do library

You can do tower

And maybe apartment too

Camelot maybe we can do together or something

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:30 PM

Tbh you should do the tower

Well

I guess we can do our own areas

It'll just look a bit odd

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:32 PM

Ohh that's kind of fair

We could switch then

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:43 PM

I'll send suds an action reminder at the hour mark

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:45 PM

Oh wtf twoflower doesn't actually have 4 eyes????

Lame

He's still a hearthian in my eyes

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:46 PM

lmao

yeah I think he just wears glasses right?

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:46 PM

Boring

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:46 PM

Hahaha

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:47 PM

Also yikes at all the racist caricature art of him

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:47 PM

Oh jeez I didn't know that existed

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:47 PM

Oh like even officially

I get the asian tourist stereotype but this is just godawful

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:48 PM

jeez yeah what the heck

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:48 PM

Can buy this at the discworld website so go wild

Anyway finished the color of magic good shit

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:49 PM

gonna put it next to my yellow man mug

or whatever that racist mug was in disco elysium

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:49 PM

Is that a disco elysium

Yeah

I'm far more inclined to keep my own headcanon up

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:49 PM

And nice, glad you enjoyed the book

And definitely go wild

Pratchett would support that

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:51 PM

I can lock tower soon

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:51 PM

Ight

Up to you if you want us to do our own areas or switch

Undyne 17-Jun-21 04:52 PM

I think it can be funny if we do our own

And go like "I do this and that"

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 04:52 PM

Sure lmao

DMing brine and cam their results

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:07 PM

Pitch is done

UNSEEN UNIVERSITY LIBRARY --------ACTIONS--------

BATTLER [AClowderOfCats]: [19] Stand around doing nothing because I REFUSE to interact with a FAKE, """""MAGIC""""" library like this (until i need something from it i guess)

ELLEN [[ori4thewin]]: [19] follow the librarian to the section on curses, and pick out a few books that seem relevant to my condition or are on dispelling/mitigating curses. If I find something promising, read through what I found while humming a sweet tune to myself.

CIEL [ZelRaat]: [20] Tell the Librarian that I wish to find books that dwell on spells for soul destruction and potential weapons or items that would permit that in this land, in a discreet manner so that only he hears.

so Battler will stand super chadlike

Ellen will find a book that tells her more or less all the ways she can get rid of her illness in the game (without being 100% transparent of course)

Ciel will find a book that pretty much exactly tells her how she can destroy the soul of an immortal entity

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:14 PM

hold on

https://twitter.com/BattlerPemdas/status/1405409340136296451

PEMDAS Battler (@BattlerPemdas)

https://t.co/WdCZlps52F

make battler stand like this

I'll do the tower now

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:16 PM

HAHAHA

Also Cam wants to go after the snitch if he gets iron

we are gonna have 3 different characters after it lmao

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:18 PM

I see

we might have to create some kind of a contingency plan for cam if people vie for the needle

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:19 PM

For Cath you mean?

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:19 PM

oh yeah cath

masked man

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:19 PM

Hmm

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:19 PM

I'm gonna say

since both the wizard and himiko got terrible rolls

I'm gonna say himiko tries to barter and fails and pays double the price

but the wizard mistakenly thinks the item has a 50% discount and adds that to the price

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:20 PM

LMAO

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:20 PM

so it ends up being the agreed price

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:20 PM

So it cancels out

That's so good

Also

re: contingency

In harry potter, Snitches have flesh memory, which means they remember the first person who touched them

so we could do something similar where it is locked to only be opened by the masked man somehow

so even if someone else wants to open it, only the masked man can pull the needle

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:23 PM

That could make sense

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:24 PM

and it doesn't screw over anyone else too much bc they can still get the effects of the needle being pulled as long as they find cathode, and they can still get the satisfaction of catching the snitch

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:25 PM

true

if meep isn't around for the rollover I'll just have gandalf do nothing

in the apartment

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:54 PM

Library is done

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:58 PM

okay I might just rollover the apt since meep isn't around

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:58 PM

cool

how do you want to handle cathode covering up the trapdoor

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:59 PM

well just fails

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 05:59 PM

fair

Undyne 17-Jun-21 05:59 PM

it's a low roll

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:00 PM

should he succeed on taking some filings though

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:00 PM

he takes one

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:00 PM

a single one lmao nice

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:00 PM

should waffles' orbs be seen items?

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:01 PM

Hmm

How does it work in the game

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:01 PM

let me check if they're visible

yeah they are

I'll make it a clothing thing

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:02 PM

masked man gets a single one of these

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:02 PM

oh that's what those are?

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:02 PM

yeah

I feel like maybe he should get a small handful

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:03 PM

a pinch

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:03 PM

yeah

A 5 isn't good but not enough to basically have both the things he wanted to do completely fail

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:03 PM

yeah

I moreso mean covering an instant access entrance should be very hard

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:03 PM

Yeah exactly

That should be the thing that definitely fails whereas he just doesn't get a lot of filings

some of em slip thru his fingers or smth

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:04 PM

yeah

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:04 PM

should the wiz business cards be items or nah since they don't do anything

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:05 PM

we'd have to create way too many of them

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:05 PM

yeah

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:05 PM

we can just say they have it in DMs

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:05 PM

that reminds me I wonder how the multiple copies of skyrim were handled in dick game

did bot handle items back then

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:05 PM

yeah it did

hold on let me ask ahmayk

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:05 PM

yeah

I mean we still don't need 2 create a bunch of wizard business cards, but it'll be useful for some of the other items that can be duped

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:06 PM

let's see what he says

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:06 PM

cool

in the meantime I'll write rollover text for camelot

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:06 PM

alright

@King Harkinian multiple people can hold the same item if the description is the same and all

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:07 PM

oh cool

that is useful

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:07 PM

so for static unchanging items like business cards we could do that

the money wouldn't work since it has to be in flux

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:07 PM

yeah

but damn ok that is good

we can do the business cards just to keep good track of them

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:07 PM

the same player can have multiples of the same item too

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:08 PM

and it will be very clutch for the other items

yeah

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:08 PM

no I think we could do the business cards as items

we can just go !item businesscard

to see who has them

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:12 PM

Yeah

That's what I meant above

Also what should count for daffy giving a wizard business card to someone

Do they have to agree in some form

Bc it seems like Mickey never consented to taking one

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:13 PM

I'm done with apts and tower

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:13 PM

Nice

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:13 PM

People need to consent yes

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:13 PM

Alright

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:13 PM

well

we can see if there's an indication in the chat they'll take it

it doesn't necessarily have to be as an action

but doesn't seem like it for mickey

so after the phase change we'll make an announcement to say "welcome to the first performance day of the talent show, at the end of this phase we'll open up the show floor for everyone to see"

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:17 PM

sounds good

Just gotta send ahmayk and suds their investigation results and they'll be good

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:19 PM

alright

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:19 PM

should there just be medieval equipment in the shed + a couple of camelot gold coins, or should there be more

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:20 PM

eh that sounds good

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:20 PM

excalibur is in there but it's disguised so they won't notice it for a 12 and 15

for a player to get it they'd have to either notice a sword that looks slightly different, roll high on what sword to take, or somehow get @Vriska Serket to bring it to them

either way they'll need Merlin to dispel the illusion in order to use it as excalibur

what do you think of ahmayk will get "some camelot gold coins are scattered on the ground" and suds will get "some age-dulled coins are scattered on the ground"

should that be a sufficient difference for 12 vs 15 or should they get the same thing

(I have them getting the same thing for the equipment portion)

In the interest of time I sent them the slightly different ones

should be fine either way

Alright

That's camelot accounted for

@Undyne I think we're good to go to !nextphase?

I won't do it until we've both confirmed ready

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:30 PM

I'm ready

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:30 PM

Sick

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:30 PM

go through the bullet points in the bot documentation

and make sure there's nothing on your end

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:32 PM

-no descriptions needed to be updated -gave players their items -resolved zel's movespecial and ellen's non move -all actions accounted for as submitted

looks good to me

I gave everyone who investigated their result

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:32 PM

then do it

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:32 PM

nice

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:43 PM

Rip apartment and quidditch pitch lmao

Everyone went to library

Imagine that... a world where everyone chooses book over phone...

Vriska Serket 17-Jun-21 06:44 PM

the boomers win

1

Minamitsu Murasa 17-Jun-21 06:47 PM

Something I just realized

If suds owns umineko then does he get two people under his control?

Undyne 17-Jun-21 06:48 PM

he just asked

not under control

but he gets both of their IP

only the conctract signee is controlled

Minamitsu Murasa 17-Jun-21 06:48 PM

Lmao nice

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 06:49 PM

Such a good objective

Undyne 17-Jun-21 08:44 PM

@King Harkinian should 404 be able to give duplicates of items, or should he have only one of each?

actually I think he should since I think there are dupes in terraria

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 09:10 PM

Yeah he should be able to give dupes

That's fine

Undyne 17-Jun-21 09:33 PM

oh I did forget to dm waffles his money okay I'll do that now

I mean snowva

@King Harkinian can you DM snowva that they have 1 Tar Valon Gold Coin?

since they lost 0.5 I think

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 09:34 PM

Sure

Did you send 404 the money he gained

Undyne 17-Jun-21 09:34 PM

crap I knew I had to have forgotten something I'll do that

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 09:35 PM

I updated the spreadsheet for both characters

Undyne 17-Jun-21 09:48 PM

thanks

I sent 404 the DM

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 09:50 PM

Nice

@Undyne Ori asked me this and I'm not really sure if we should deviate this far from the written description of the ability

[ori4thewin] — Today at 3:47 PM Would it be possible to use my astral projection to spy on beatrice? Dirty Spaceman — Today at 4:10 PM Your astral projection is meant to let you view rollover text in an area, you would have to roll very high to actually see anything beyond that [ori4thewin] — Today at 4:49 PM Yeah, I get that. I was more asking if I using it in a more out-of-the-box way that would still make sense for the ability itself

Keeping in mind that the ability as written is

You can project your mind to a nearby place outside of your body. As an action, you may choose another area you have visited, and you will see the rollover events in that area for that phase.

Undyne 17-Jun-21 09:55 PM

no

it's clearly written it's to see the rollover (edited)

that proposition is not within our text

King Harkinian 17-Jun-21 09:58 PM

Yeah

I'll tell em that in a nice way

Undyne 17-Jun-21 11:59 PM

@King Harkinian one thing is if we use !status it'll always show the latest roll

So looking to see what was a typo correction or not can be problematic

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 12:03 AM

Oooh

That is fair

I was actually having a bit of debate about that topic in my head just now

Though a lot of what I was thinking was stuff that I shouldn't be thinking as a GM

Ultimately if we do decide to use the 1, it doesn't completely screw up suds's gameplan

Bc we wouldn't make it reveal the contents of the contract to ahmayk since ahmayk isn't even checking the contents

He'd just drop the contract and have to try again next phase

He's following beatrice anyway

Whatever we do, they won't know until the end of the game so I'm not concerned about that

But either way one of suds or ahmayk will probably be a little salty lmao

There was something else I was thinking about but I forget now

Oh, right

For beatrice's thing I was thinking of just having her find a novelization of Moonlit Melee

Because she rolled so low we can't actually give her useful info, but moonlit is technically the same thing as this (different multiverses connected with powered characters coming together)

Undyne 18-Jun-21 12:14 AM

Yeah sure

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 12:45 AM

Pros and Cons Using the 1: +Consistent with other games +Consistent with the bot +Potentially fairer to ahmayk +Suds still has plenty of time to accomplish his objective +Could lead to a funny rollover sequence --Kind of rules-stickler-ish and mean -Messes up suds' plans in the short term Using the 18: ++Fairer/kinder for suds +We could keep it consistent within this game -Setting this precedent could cause mistakes with the !status command -Inconsistent with ahmayk and other gms' styles

I gave double points to the initial things we thought when faced with this dilemma

If we count this numerically it puts using the 1 at +2 and using the 18 at +1

If I don't double weight our initial reactions, it'd be +3 and +0

But there's also subjective value to some of the points so it's not a pure open and shut thing

Undyne 18-Jun-21 12:51 AM

The problem is if we go by subjective points then is that fair in the long run

Minamitsu Murasa 18-Jun-21 01:05 AM

I'm neutral on this entire issue of typo corrections

I get trying to be consistent with earlier precedent but at the same time I feel that because each host is going to end up running a game slightly different than another I wouldn't call something like that a strict precedent

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 03:21 PM

Yeah that's fair

But idk

Vriska Serket 18-Jun-21 04:00 PM

do i have like any aesthetic magic i can cast to look cool for my action

Undyne 18-Jun-21 04:11 PM

that's up to spaceman I'm not familiar

gonna send action requests now

Brinelex Brine — Today at 6:15 PM just a question My possession ability says that I will forfeit my own movement action; is this if I move another character using it or is it in every situation?

@King Harkinian

Not sure on what your intent was

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 04:18 PM

I intended it to be in every situation, because they're controlling someone else's body instead of their own

But

They can still move if the possession fails

Idk do you think that's fair? Like normally the lich can only be in one vessel at a time so my idea was that leaving its body to control someone else would prevent it from moving

Undyne 18-Jun-21 04:21 PM

yeah I think that's fair if it fails

I'll tell them

should there be some negative consequence for brine for trying to possess a judge?

I feel like since their roll was still fairly high they don't need to take any damage or anything but they could be on thin ice in the tower area

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 04:22 PM

I would leave that up to the character they tried to possess

The character knows they tried to possess them

Undyne 18-Jun-21 04:22 PM

well elaida would have the lich executed then and there

but that's a bit extreme

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 04:24 PM

Ok how about this

The character knows something made an intrusion on their mind but they don't know for sure what it was

So you'll probably be very sussy of the lich

I'm sorry for saying that I had to

Undyne 18-Jun-21 04:25 PM

alrighty then

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 04:25 PM

Anyway that way you won't immediately go to execute them bc you don't know for sure it was them

Vriska Serket

do i have like any aesthetic magic i can cast to look cool for my action

Vriska Serket 18-Jun-21 04:31 PM

@King Harkinian what did u think abt this

cause im kinda at a loss for what to do for my actions sticking around in camelot theres not much to do (edited)

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 04:34 PM

Hmm

Well you're hosting the magic show so maybe you can do some kind of a flashy trick to announce this round of contestants

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:03 PM

@Undyne Thoughts? Ori asked this

Ok, new stupid question: can I still use the body swap ability after swapping once?

Last night

I would say there's nothing in the ability as written saying they can't

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:03 PM

How would that work in practice

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:04 PM

Convincing another character to swap the same way they would have done the first time

Or swapping back

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:04 PM

So does the body swap keep the same abilities for ori

If yes then he keeps the ability to body swap

If not then he doesn't

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:04 PM

Yeah the characters keep their abilities just not their items and appearance

So then yeah

God every time I need to check back to the wiki page about Ellen it just makes me depressed

Anyway

Sending action reminders for 404 and Zel

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:15 PM

Is it a dreary story

I already did

Well if you wanna send again you can

But I sent them to everyone a couple hours ago

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:15 PM

It's just a really upsetting ending

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:16 PM

All the rpg maker games have one

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:16 PM

Yeah I gave 404 and zel their 1 hour action reminders

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:16 PM

Well I think ib has a good ending option

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:18 PM

I should probably start rollover for library now since it's gonna take a while lol

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:31 PM

yeah me too for tower

that way we have time for the magic show

@Vriska Serket also one point about the talent shows is you can move to other areas when there isn't a talent show happening

so if you want you can move somewhere for next phase

Vriska Serket 18-Jun-21 05:35 PM

ah ok!

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:39 PM

@Maerk you're also free to move anywhere you want

@Minamitsu Murasa if you're fine with mostly hanging around in the quidditch area that'd be good but tbh I don't think you're forced to just be there

Minamitsu Murasa 18-Jun-21 05:42 PM

Alright

Is anyone going to the pitch next phase? If not I'll just go to the library

Err tower actually

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:44 PM

Yeah wow no one is going to the pitch lol

so much for getting the snitch

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:44 PM

yeah you can go anywhere

Minamitsu Murasa 18-Jun-21 05:48 PM

Tower it is

Maerk 18-Jun-21 05:49 PM

Hey yall have a map of the areas right

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:53 PM

yea

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850816007883063356/853456129660289054/unknown.png?width=830&height=534

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:57 PM

I'm gonna say cam gets some iron from the table support or something

he rolled a 12

that's enough for one good metal

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:58 PM

Yeah

Maybe give him bronze or something

Like some Andoran bronze coins

Undyne 18-Jun-21 05:58 PM

a bronze candle stand

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 05:58 PM

Ah good idea

Btw you can do camelot rollover if you want, I just locked it so that it's locked for 1pm

Or we can do camelot rollover together

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:02 PM

we could do it together maybe

okay well

I'll do the rollover

so that should include everything that's not a magical performance?

seems like only 404 is doing one

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:05 PM

Yeah

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:06 PM

Okay so

investigating inside the shed: cath: 10 snowva: 13 (look at what's inside) zel: 15 (grab any weapon and holy water that might be in there) clowder: 17 (look at what's inside) (edited)

I said cath doesn't fit in because he had the lowest roll

what should the other 3 find?

you're the one who wrote the last invest results

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:07 PM

For a 15:

Inside the shed, you see a variety of medieval equipment - swords, shields, armour, and the like. Some look to be made of iron, and others of steel, and some are in better condition than others. Also, some Camelot Gold coins are scattered on the ground.

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:07 PM

sorry I fixed them

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:08 PM

For a 12:

Inside the shed, you see a variety of medieval equipment - swords, shields, armour, and the like. Some look to be made of iron, and others of steel, and some are in better condition than others. Some age-dulled coins are scattered on the ground.

For a 17 maybe battler notices that one sword has an interesting pattern on the hilt, though the rest of the sword looks unremarkable and in slightly worst condition than the others?

That one would be Excalibur

But we also need to decide whether Ciel gets a regular sword or the disguised Excalibur

Also for a 1, should Ellen accidentally misdirect herself?

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:10 PM

yeah sounds good

I think 15 is a regular sword

I'm giving zel a regular longsword, it's a big item

there's no holy water I assume

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:13 PM

Yeah the holy water is in the apartment

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:13 PM

gotcha

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:18 PM

Is this good for ahmayk, or is it too much info for a 3

You were brought to a section about multiversal happenings, but upon further inspection, the book you found seems to be... fictional? It's an account of a vain god bringing powerful beings from many universes together into a set of interdimensional areas. It seems like an interesting read, at least. Maybe the way magic interacts in this Expo is similar? You're not sure.

I could drop the last two sentences

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:19 PM

what purpose do they have

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:19 PM

Or change it to "You're not sure how closely it applies to the circumstances in the current universe."

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:19 PM

what's the gameplay meaning

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:19 PM

BEATRICE [Ahmaykmewsik]: [3] discretely ask the librarian to help find a book that details how magical systems change when magical creatures travel between different multiverses, specifically information that would be relative to how magic works in our current universe. Also sign that dumb mouse's petition if he tries to get me to sign it

ahmayk wants to find out how magic interacts between different multiverses in the context of the expo

or rather beatrice does

presumably to win a logic battle against battler

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:21 PM

change it to your alternative I think

once you're done with the library we need to get along with the magic show

really I can start doing that

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:22 PM

Yeah

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:22 PM

@Vriska Serket are you around?

you could have some introductory shout while you do your magic lights and stuff

Vriska Serket 18-Jun-21 06:22 PM

eyo

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:22 PM

okay let's get on with the show I'll create the channel

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:25 PM

I thought we were doin it in announce

But then again

A specific channel is prob better than clogging up announcements

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:27 PM

@Vriska Serket do you want to do the honors and begin it

yeah for sure spaceman

@Minamitsu Murasa are you around

@Maerk what about you

We kind of need you NPCs around for rollovers to react to the talent show

Vriska Serket 18-Jun-21 06:28 PM

do you want me to shout out the individual ppl performing this phase?

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:28 PM

yeah do like

welcome to the last, I mean first, talent show

today we have this and this performing

which I think it's only 404 aka Wizard

Vriska Serket 18-Jun-21 06:29 PM

k

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:29 PM

For pizzie's 7 I was thinking of sending this btw

The book you find looks to be an Unseen University academic's thesis on magical means of flight. Perfect! Except... it's so dry and overly technical, you can hardly make any sense of it. At the very least, it seems to mention the word "besom" a lot? Damn archaic scholars...

I looked up synonyms for broom and "besom" was the most archaic one I saw

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:30 PM

alright cool

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:30 PM

It's slightly helpful but only if pizzie takes the initiative to look up the word

Which I think is fair for a 7

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:30 PM

yeah

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:32 PM

Just gotta think of something funny for maack to see with his 2 for random book/random page

Minamitsu Murasa 18-Jun-21 06:32 PM

What do you need me for

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:32 PM

If you feel like giving a reaction to the magic in the magic talent show

It's just one performance this time

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:32 PM

so we'll do the rollover for the performance

and then the judges just say something funny in response

no need to grade anything yet

Minamitsu Murasa 18-Jun-21 06:33 PM

Sure thing

Maerk 18-Jun-21 06:33 PM

Alright huh

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:33 PM

summon three fireballs and start to juggle them while talking about how my items are extremely high quality. roll 7

so what do you think spaceman

So he def starts juggling them

And maybe starts reciting something

actually hold on

think about this @King Harkinian while I do something

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:35 PM

Hahaha damn

Lessee

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:35 PM

it can't go all to plan

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:35 PM

Yeah

Well according to his ability he can only summon a fireball if an attack was made or if he thinks one will be made

But maybe we should be lenient on that for the magic show

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:37 PM

yeah I think we should reward creativity instead of pragmaticism

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:37 PM

yeah

So

He summons 3 fireballs, and starts juggling them

he starts talking about how his items are high quality

he realizes he can try to hypnotize people into buying his items

so he intensifies the fireballs and starts reciting it in a monotonous voice

but he ends up hypnotizing himself and falling asleep

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:38 PM

lmaoooooooooooo good

do you wanna do that

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:38 PM

he falls over on the stage snoring

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:38 PM

just like out of character description

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:38 PM

Sure

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:39 PM

or in character too if you want

but you seem to have the vision

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:39 PM

I don't want to make it seem too much like he explicitly meant to hypnotize people bc that wasnt implied in the action

But I do want to give the impression that it becomes hypnotic

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:39 PM

yeah it can just become hypnotic

alright the floor is yours literally

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:40 PM

cool

@Undyne should I let 404 talk about his items

for a bit

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:42 PM

yeah go ahead lol

I'll Dm him

you can open speech perms

well let's see if he's around

he went offline

if he's not around I can just do the quote too

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:42 PM

rip alright

oh hes on now

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:43 PM

yeah he's around

I told him to not finish completely and end with a .........

so it leads into falling asleep

@King Harkinian okay you can go ahead

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:45 PM

Nice

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:48 PM

okay @Master Wizard let's give our thoughts now

just like one message suffices

remember that the objective for everyone is "impress the judges"

so you can be impressed about some element

but be disappointed about others

but I think 404 can have other chances to impress the judges

so this one doesn't have to be a knockout

also spaceman remember to react as the librarian

@King Harkinian are you gonna post something

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:52 PM

Sure

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:52 PM

then lilith can just go "that's all for today, next talent show is on phase 4" (edited)

alright go ahead lilith

after this we can do the next phase

great roleplaying as merlin so far btw

okay are we good for next phase

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:55 PM

I just need to send something to maack

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:55 PM

gotcha

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:55 PM

Any ideas

random book/random page rolled a 2

Vriska Serket 18-Jun-21 06:55 PM

thanks! it's a little confusing with time stuff lmao

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:57 PM

yeah ur doing great!

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:57 PM

do something fancy but with little substance

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:57 PM

I kind of want to pick something that's like an image I can send of an existing thing

Or a reference he'll get

that will be somewhat cringe

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:58 PM

we should get on with it pretty soon

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:58 PM

oh my gosh wait I just thought of the perfect thing

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:58 PM

i uh

sure

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:58 PM

Did you want it to be something actually fantasy related

Undyne 18-Jun-21 06:59 PM

fuck it

do the minecraft one

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 06:59 PM

Alright lmao

done

Undyne 18-Jun-21 07:00 PM

okay cool

Minamitsu Murasa 18-Jun-21 07:06 PM

LMAO

Undyne 18-Jun-21 07:19 PM

@King Harkinian can people move instantly back from the lab too?

I think that's how it works

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 07:20 PM

I think so too

Undyne 18-Jun-21 07:20 PM

but if they want to do an action in the lab they have to stay there

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 07:20 PM

Yeah

So it looks like it doesn't auto create the lab location

Undyne 18-Jun-21 07:20 PM

let me check with ahmayk

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 07:30 PM

Nice moonlit reference

Undyne 18-Jun-21 07:30 PM

course

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 07:37 PM

@Vriska Serket @Maerk in case either of you want to answer pizzie: briefly, according to your knowledge, harry dresden is a wizard who represents the White Council of wizards, though he's apparently not in their highest esteem. He would rather solve crimes on the city streets than study magic in a nice secluded spot somewhere. They convinced him to volunteer his home for the Expo, though he was pretty reluctant.

You can use as much or as little of that as you want

More info your characters might note: he's from Earth, but research so far indicates his is a different universe from the Earth that contains Hogwarts.

Though there may be a connection somewhere, since his universe contains fictionalized accounts of events at Hogwarts.

Undyne 18-Jun-21 07:43 PM

I knew elaida and beatrice would make a good pair

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 07:43 PM

It is great lmao

Man things are really developing interestingly lmao

Undyne 18-Jun-21 07:48 PM

I knew this cast would lead to good stuff

King Harkinian 18-Jun-21 08:15 PM

hell yeah

Zel asks

ZelRaat — Today at 2:52 PM Is it day? If yes, will the sun set within those 12 phases?

We did not consider this at all so hmm

We could give the copout answer that time has been suspended within each area

(Since they're all cordoned off from their home universes)

Undyne 18-Jun-21 09:29 PM

Yeah

How to say that in a non spoilery way though (edited)

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 03:48 AM

I'll tell him that "the time is currently indeterminate, as far as you can tell"

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 04:23 AM

Ooh I didn't even consider that the lab gives people a private place to speak

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 03:48 PM

We may need to do rollover late today as I'm going to the beach with my buddies around lunchtime

I'd try to do some of it early but we're missing a lot of actions

Actually library is good to go

Undyne 19-Jun-21 03:50 PM

Alright we can do them a bit earlier

I should send action reminders now

@Vriska Serket @Maerk could you guys send actions and movements soon, lilith should be going back to camelot

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 03:59 PM

So I wanted to check on how Maack is doing, looks like he has 1/3 for masked man (if you think "potential ally" is enough of a compliment), 2/3 for melia (will be 3/3 after helping her with the show), and 1/3 for ellen (learned a detail about her past)

Undyne 19-Jun-21 04:00 PM

I told him to keep track of it himself and notify us GMs of new developments

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 04:00 PM

Ok sounds good

Undyne 19-Jun-21 04:00 PM

And I already said potential ally isn't a compliment

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 04:00 PM

Ah alrighty

Also I can't believe I missed this gem

Undyne 19-Jun-21 04:00 PM

because

potential ally means you're not an ally!

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 04:00 PM

Hahahahaha

Undyne 19-Jun-21 04:29 PM

I hope people figure out to look for coins in areas

maybe I gave them too little starting money

Undyne 19-Jun-21 05:40 PM

@King Harkinian do you think if zel is in the lab for the rollover, should he be able to move outside of the apartment during that rollover?

I think yes because that's how it worked in ratatosk

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 06:06 PM

Is that how it worked?

Also looks like zel is back in the apartment now anyway

Imma announce that some aspects of rollover will be delayed

Oh u already did

Undyne 19-Jun-21 06:18 PM

he's gonna do an action in the lab and then move to another room from there

I'll do the tower and apartment rollovers now

gonna start locking areas

Undyne 19-Jun-21 06:31 PM

I sent ahmayk this "Golly! It seems like you've just given Mickey the rights to your IP! You must follow any commands he gives you or you'll lose one heart of HP."

cath got a 17 for inspecting the area so I'll give him info that it's a governmental office with hints elaida got it in unlawful manners and could possibly be overthrown

"The Amyrlin's office seems to be in top condition, though it's very self-indulgent on Elaida's part. The desk shows that she is running a complex sovereign city state, though some of the documents hint at dissent growing inside the tower at her rulership. Did she gain her position lawfully...? It seems like she's standing on a house of cards."

Undyne 19-Jun-21 06:46 PM

@King Harkinian I don't know what knick knacks are on the dresden table so I'm gonna have to ask you to send clowder info about it

pizzie rolled so low I'm saying she doesn't find anything and just picks up the dice (edited)

Okay I'm gonna leave the library and camelot to you I need to do stuff

I've done the tower and apartment + lab, only leaving the one invest result to you

oh wait I need to do the lab okay well when you read this I'll have done the lab

I'll say zel rolled so high he doesn't feel anything in the apartment area

I'll say he sees the layout too

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:24 PM

Alrighty

Ok doing library and camelot now

And the apartment thing

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:26 PM

Thanks

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:49 PM

If ur still awake can you copypaste to me what you sent zel

@Maerk where do u plan to move for next phase

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:53 PM

Okay hold on

The map shows you the layout of the expo grounds. You try to feel for your adversary's spirit in the apartment area... but you don't feel any reaction.

And the map picture

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:54 PM

Ah ok cool

And alright yeah I just realized zel was looking specifically in the apartment

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:54 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:54 PM

That's perfect

Well now they know it's not battler

Which is good

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:55 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:55 PM

For us and for them (and for clowder)

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:55 PM

Except

Clowder is small brained

And isn't going to tower

Even though pizzie told her beato is waiting for battler in the tower

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:55 PM

Lol

Incredible

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:55 PM

True battler fashion

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:56 PM

I'll take your word for it

I sent clowder the inv results also

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:56 PM

Thanks

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:56 PM

And gave cam a bit of pewter and gave a grimoire to the lich

I can't think of what it should be able to do so I just gave it as an item

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:56 PM

Pewter is a metal?

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:57 PM

Yeah it's a tin alloy

It's an allomantic metal

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:57 PM

Interesting

I only know it from pewter city in pokemon

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 09:57 PM

I knew it from that and from the fact that harry potter's cauldron is pewter

We can discuss what the grimoire should let the lich do tomorrow morning if you'd like

It could just tell them about the needle in the snitch, or it could help them disable portals or smth, or something more out of the box to help with their objective

Undyne 19-Jun-21 09:59 PM

We'll see

For now it remains closed

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:00 PM

Yeah

We also gotta decide what spell tome the wizard gets

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:00 PM

Yeah

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:00 PM

I wanted to generate a full roll table of 20 options but I didn't get very far

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:00 PM

It could be some terraria thing

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:01 PM

Yeah it could be one of the 3 spells that you can create from the spell tomes in terraria

Or it could be a spell of flight or smth

That would help tarhiel

I'm gonna make superb have a BSoD

And reboot

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:05 PM

Cool

Yeah

Wait

Make sure

Make sure you include "not proper hardware please install software in compatible hardware"

Or something

Cause universal healthcare cannot be installed in a person lol

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:05 PM

Probably a good idea yeah

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:05 PM

It has to be installed in a government

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:06 PM

YEah

It could be installed in camelot probably since it's the seat of king arthur

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:06 PM

Like we have to make it clear every time he tries to install stuff where it doesn't belong

Camelot or tar valon

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:06 PM

If he'd rolled like a 20 I would let it shift to installing in camelot

yeah

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:06 PM

Idk if I would

It wouldn't be because he understands the mechanic

I don't think a nat20 should do that for him

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:07 PM

Fair

Should we add more ways for him to figure out how it works aside from the compatibility scan

Or should we just incentivize him to use the scan more by having him lose 0.5 hearts or smth

How about if he rolls below a certain threshold on something incompatible, he loses 0.5 hearts

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:15 PM

Sounds good

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:15 PM

I'm giving Himiko 6 camelot gold btw

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:15 PM

Incentivizes not doing random installs

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:15 PM

Or should I give her more (edited)

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:15 PM

And sure

Can add a little more

Since it's all for 404's objective

Basically

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:15 PM

Make it 8?

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:15 PM

Alright

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:23 PM

So

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:24 PM

If you did the rest we're good

You can !nextphase when you're ready

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:24 PM

Oh I just need to send maack's inv result

I was gonna send this You look in the shed, and see a variety of medieval equipment.

but for a 2 should it be even less useful?

Maybe You look in the shed, and see a variety of equipment.

Also gotta give 404 his spell tome

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:25 PM

This is fine

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:26 PM

which one

the first one?

or the one without medieval?

Ok I've gotta drive to my parents' place in a few so imma send the medieval one

Maerk 19-Jun-21 10:34 PM

wait do i need to be real rn?

King Harkinian 19-Jun-21 10:35 PM

nah

we just let u stay in apartment

ur there with lich and kelsier now

Undyne 19-Jun-21 10:51 PM

Are you enjoying hosting

Spaceman

This is your vision after all

Undyne 19-Jun-21 11:07 PM

I told suds he needs some proof beatrice will be in the next kingdom hearts

Undyne 19-Jun-21 11:56 PM

@King Harkinian interesting question from suds, if he tampers with the contract will it become invalid?

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:00 AM

Yeah he asked me as well

I think so yes

But suds can make copies of it

As long as intact copies exist the contract is valid

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:03 AM

But like

What if he adds clauses

To the umineko contract

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:05 AM

He can't add clauses unless he gets her to sign again

So yeah let's say that if he modifes the contract after it's signed, it's invalid unless it's signed again

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:05 AM

You can send that

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:05 AM

Ok

Also he asked if he can reuse the contract for other characters (i.e. without making a fresh copy)

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:07 AM

No

Well maybe for battler

But he needs to have blank contracts for new IPs

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:10 AM

Yeah that's what I'd have thought

I'll message him

Undyne

Are you enjoying hosting

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:13 AM

I'm enjoying it bc I think a good number of players are enjoying it

This is all about facilitating a fun time for people so I am glad as long as that's happening

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:14 AM

Indeed

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:14 AM

And also omniscience is pretty fun too lol

Seeing all the parallel threads as they interact

And all the moments of dramatic and comedic irony

Is great

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:17 AM

Yeah

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 12:23 AM

@King Harkinian what do I say about the sun setting

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:25 AM

I think we decided the universes are in like a stasis

So really it wouldn't

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:26 AM

I first gotta make sure what is supposed to happen when the sun sets

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:26 AM

Hmm

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:31 AM

Idk, i gave the wiki page another read through and I couldn't find anything mentioning sunset

Undyne 20-Jun-21 12:32 AM

Idk

Just say it's static then

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 12:33 AM

Alright

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 12:36 AM

Yeah

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 01:55 AM

Also I just want to point out

BROSKI

YOU'VE CHECKED EVERY OTHER AREA

YOU DON'T THINK THIS MIGHT BE RELATED TO YOUR OBJECTIVE?

Good job hinting that you need someone to fix your nimbus 5000 @Minamitsu Murasa

superb HAS to pick up on it at some point

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 02:00 AM

I'm hoping he can figure it out now

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 02:00 AM

Yeah lmao

also I love that the characters in wizard game are having a discussion about linux

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 02:08 AM

Trying to keep the smug contrarianism going

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 02:08 AM

excellent

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 03:31 PM

@Undyne Did zel ask u about if baptism sacrament can be done discreetly

I would say it could be done in a way that doesn't outright make it obvious that he stopped rhe other person's action, but there'd have to be some rollover representation of doing something

Undyne 20-Jun-21 03:35 PM

he did and I'm telling him no

it's an exorcism ritual

there's something

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:32 PM

Yeah (edited)

It definitely needs to be something visible

I just was wondering if it would visibly show that it affects the targeted person

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:35 PM

maybe if the roll is high enough it can be more discrete

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:37 PM

Fair

Also I don't get what superb's deal is

His objective is to install a program FOR SOMEONE

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:42 PM

maybe the wording is weird let's not knock him

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:42 PM

Yeah

I understand how he could get to the spot where he's at right now, I'm just not sure how to help

Without giving away the game

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:44 PM

he only has to install one thing successfully he has time

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:44 PM

yeah

I just hope he hasn't given up and "Gone rogue" as he mentioned

Anyway I'm going to be going golfing with my dad for father's day soon so I'm gonna get an early start on rollover stuff

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:46 PM

okay

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:49 PM

I'll do rollover for library since it should be easy

Well

"easy"

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:49 PM

Alright

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:49 PM

Gotta figure out a good book for tarhiel to find and some stuff for himiko

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:53 PM

today's a talent show though

will you be around for that?

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:54 PM

Hngggh idk

Man

I really don't want to delay things again but I don't want to not go golfing with my dad on father's day

Also, Wheel of Time shoutout on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_magic

Coin magic

Coin magic is the manipulating of coins to entertain audiences. Because coins are small, most coin tricks are considered close-up magic or table magic, as the audience must be close to the performer to see the effects. Though stage conjurers generally do not use coin effects, coin magic is sometimes performed onstage using large coins. In a diff...

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:56 PM

definitely go golfin

g

hey I can do the talent show

and I can say the librarian was off that day and gives impressions later

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:56 PM

Well I'll probably be back in around 3 to 4 hours from now

But I know that's quite late for you

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:56 PM

not really

if you want to delay the talent show until then that's fine

we can do the main rollovers before

that sound good?

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:57 PM

Ok but I'll have to leave really soon

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:57 PM

yeah well I can do the rest of the rollovers

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:57 PM

I'll have to do some on my phone on the way

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:57 PM

if you do the library I can do the rest

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:57 PM

I can try to do the lab

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:57 PM

belgariad shoutout too

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:58 PM

We need to figure out what the grimoire does

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:58 PM

We can do that rollover when you get back

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:58 PM

Alright

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:58 PM

let me do an announcement

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 04:59 PM

Just say that some aspects of today's rollover will be delayed

Undyne 20-Jun-21 04:59 PM

yeah

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 05:04 PM

For himiko since they only rolled an 11, I will name some of the coin magic tricks but not describe them

Think that's fair?

They'd just have to look it up themselves to figure out what they need

Undyne 20-Jun-21 05:06 PM

sounds fine

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 05:07 PM

Ok

I'll send pizzie's result later

Alright so

For pizzie

For a 14 the book shouldn't actually contain a spell of flight, but it could contain instructions on a way to fix a previous-gen flying broomstick

So he could fix one of the older brooms and learn a flying enchantment from that

Gonna send dat

Library is done

Undyne 20-Jun-21 05:31 PM

awesome

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:07 PM

gonna make suds make some half assed contracts

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:16 PM

Ight lol

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:17 PM

they get the ip but not the control part

I think that's fair

I'll do the non-talent show camelot now

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:18 PM

Ok coolio

Btw maack won't switch bods without mentioning it in his act rite

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:19 PM

uhh

maack isn't doing a body switch

do you mean ori

@King Harkinian zel got a 6 on his mystic eyes, should that work or not?

it's a 60% chance so a 6 won't work

rip

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:24 PM

@Undyne maack is the person ori is trying to swap with

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:24 PM

maack isn't saying anything in his action about that no

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:24 PM

Yeah

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:25 PM

what's your take? (edited)

I don't see any consent in the channel either

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:26 PM

Have to go now be back after gold

Golf

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:26 PM

gotcha

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:30 PM

Ok srry got another chance to talk, 2 holes left

So yeah

Ori didn't answer maacks question and maack didn't include anything in his action so the swap won't happen

And yeah the mystic eyes won't work

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:31 PM

@King Harkinian did you subtract 1 gold from 404's revenue?

last time he took out a tome for himself

if it's 5 gold sell price we subtract 1 gold when he takes one for himself

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:31 PM

I did not as I wasn't sure if we were tracking his revenue separately from his good

Gold

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:32 PM

oh well

we can do it later during a tally

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:32 PM

But i made a mental note yeah

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:32 PM

gotcha

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:43 PM

I think we're ready for the talent show now

aside from the lab

Man that took fucking 43 minutes I'm tired

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:49 PM

Oof

Yeah I'll be home in half an hour I think?

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:50 PM

if you could do the brunt of the talent show I'd be glad

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 07:51 PM

I shall

Undyne 20-Jun-21 07:59 PM

thanks I need a cold drink it's hot in here

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:38 PM

Cool

Sorry for the delay my dad took a detour to the liquor store on the way back

Anyway

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:40 PM

that's fine

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:41 PM

@Vriska Serket do u want to introduce the talent show?

We have 2 people performing

Oh btw @Undyne After this maack gets his first social link right

bc he helped melia

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:43 PM

uhhh ask him I think

I told him to keep track of them

Vriska Serket 20-Jun-21 08:44 PM

gimme 10 mins or so

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:45 PM

@Maerk @Minamitsu Murasa can you guys give your thoughts on the talent show when it happens

I'm thinking

the judges give their thoughts on every performance at the end

Maerk 20-Jun-21 08:45 PM

alright

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:45 PM

that way it's fine if they're delayed a bit

if someone is offline

even after phase start

as long as they give their thoughts before the end of the next phase

@King Harkinian you think that works?

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:46 PM

sure

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:46 PM

so like, all the performances happen

and then at the end the judges rate each one

or give their thoughts I mean

in general I'd say you should be impressed by some element

unless it's REALLY fumbled

or unless it's really unimaginative

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 08:47 PM

Gonna be out for a few min so I cant judge rn

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:47 PM

alright you can do it later

see this is why this works best

it can go over the rollover

Vriska Serket 20-Jun-21 08:47 PM

who's performing

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:47 PM

uhh a few people I think

at least 404 and waffles with some helpers

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:49 PM

404 and waffles yeah

with maack helping waffles (brother moment)

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:49 PM

we might have to omit the opening speeches from players

unless you wanna individually ask people to be online

if we discuss what happens now in the magic show and how we'll judge it beforehand, that should be best

so we should plan it now and then you can enact it just automatically based on those notes

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:51 PM

Ok yeah

Well

404's performance should go off more or less without a hitch since he rolled 18

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 08:52 PM

And done

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:52 PM

Whereas Melia's performance should I guess work but be kind of eh because she rolled an 8 and yu rolled a 9

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:52 PM

my main question is

should we be impressed by the helpers?

we need to individually comment on everyone

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:53 PM

We can be like, secondarily impressed

In general I mean

In this case, yu's Zio will be pretty meh

Undyne 20-Jun-21 08:53 PM

yeah I'm thinking

if we're impressed by helpers

the helpers have to do something impressive themselves

not just get the impress flag by being a part of an impressive thing by itself

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 08:57 PM

Yeah

@Vriska Serket Think you'll be available soon? I can introduce the talent show if not

Vriska Serket 20-Jun-21 09:04 PM

OOP yeah can do now

so it's wizard terraria and melia, with yu helping melia? (edited)

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 09:05 PM

Yeah

Waitwaitwait

Ok never mind

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 09:22 PM

Ok that's it

We can give reactions whenever now

Undyne 20-Jun-21 09:24 PM

alright I'm good

I'd say everyone deserves to be impressed those were good showings

.....guys

@Maerk @Maerk do y'all wanna give your reactions

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 09:35 PM

Am I still judging?

Undyne 20-Jun-21 09:36 PM

yeah

if you have time go ahead we need everyone to give their thoughts

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 09:38 PM

Aight

Undyne 20-Jun-21 09:55 PM

@King Harkinian when you're back you can react as monky and we can nextphase

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 10:11 PM

Fosho

Undyne 20-Jun-21 10:12 PM

gonna watch some anime so you can nextphase

when you can

Vriska Serket 20-Jun-21 10:19 PM

Ok out of nowhere question but what happens if someone kills me

Maerk 20-Jun-21 10:24 PM

im sorry im not being real aaa

Vriska Serket 20-Jun-21 10:24 PM

get fake

King Harkinian 20-Jun-21 10:46 PM

@Vriska Serket Well you're alive now so you can't have been killed before

You can probably teleport away if someone is about to kill you

Alrighty gonna nextphase after subtracting ppls used items

I'll give maack his 1st social link ability during the next phase if he confirms that he got the link

I forgot to send brines result

I'll do it soon

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 11:07 PM

What did you guys tell brine when he investigated the snitch

Undyne 20-Jun-21 11:11 PM

that was spaceman's

hold on

@King Harkinian same question

@Vriska Serket you could possibly elude to the brooms needing a trial run if they get fixed

or like, they'd need to be tried out

Vriska Serket 20-Jun-21 11:19 PM

ok!

Undyne 20-Jun-21 11:26 PM

@King Harkinian I just realized a big thing

okay actually

nevermind

I was gonna say impressing the judges could work outside of the talent show too

but it doesn't say "impress the judges of the magical talent show", it says "impress the judges at the magical talent show"

that could still be technically construed to mean the judges at the talent show can be impressed anywhere

Vriska Serket 20-Jun-21 11:28 PM

set off a firework display or something whilst the talent show is going on

Undyne 20-Jun-21 11:29 PM

lol

Minamitsu Murasa 20-Jun-21 11:59 PM

Now that I think about it what do I do if I become Michael

Undyne 21-Jun-21 12:00 AM

You change characters

Essentially

Minamitsu Murasa 21-Jun-21 12:00 AM

Yeah i get that

I was more wondering if there was something else I'd have to do as Michael

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 12:02 AM

Well from the wiki article I read it seems like the first thing he does on awakening is just start killing people

And trying to raise them in the same way as ciel's necromancy ability

I wrote a rollover for p4-lab now imma send result to brine

Im thinking let's see...

For a 5

Opening the grimoire, you reveal... an indecipherable tangle of eldritch writing and symbols! You can sense the undeniable power here, and you know your arcane prowess is enough to make sense of this grimoire, but you'll need to focus your energies better next time in order to parse the ancient magic.

Minamitsu Murasa 21-Jun-21 12:08 AM

Huh

Neat

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 12:08 AM

@Undyne thoughts?

Undyne 21-Jun-21 12:08 AM

Good

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 12:09 AM

Solid

Sent

Phase 4 officially done

Undyne 21-Jun-21 12:10 AM

Nice

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 12:10 AM

And now to send maack his first new ability

Undyne 21-Jun-21 12:11 AM

Oh cool

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 02:34 AM

Btw 404 needed to confirm what the mana potion does

I said it would boost one's roll on their next magic action

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 02:42 AM

Ciel — Today at 9:42 PM Yes. There is a ceremony involving enchanting a weapon with holy water that I have memorized from one of the books found in the library.

But we said the weapon already needs to be enchanted

@Undyne should I clarify this to zel

Ok yeah I am clarifying with Zel before this gets any more out of hand

Minamitsu Murasa 21-Jun-21 02:53 AM

Things do be heating up

Undyne 21-Jun-21 10:32 AM

Sounds good both of those

@King Harkinian btw just clarifying zel doesn't know anything about excalibur in the shed, he didn't roll high enough

So idk if it's fair to expect him to go back there

@Vriska Serket I was meaning btw you could tell waffles in the pitch

Cause he's asking about trials

That if the brooms are fixed they'd need to be tried out

Vriska Serket 21-Jun-21 10:40 AM

OH sorry I completely forgot about yesterday's ping i was very tired

ye I'll do that now

Undyne 21-Jun-21 10:40 AM

That's alright

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 02:46 PM

@Undyne Would u want to have a voice call in the next hour or so, to work out some of the design questions that have popped up as the game has begun

Undyne 21-Jun-21 02:47 PM

I've got a lecture for the next 2 hours

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 02:55 PM

Ah dang ok

Well I'm down to call in 2.5 hours while we handle rollover (extra half hour later as I have a call with a sleep therapist at noon my time)

Undyne 21-Jun-21 02:59 PM

I see

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 04:09 PM

@Undyne Should I send out 2-hour reminders

Undyne 21-Jun-21 04:10 PM

please do

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 04:10 PM

Ight

Undyne 21-Jun-21 04:45 PM

@King Harkinian so what was your schedule

I'm starting to be free to call

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 04:45 PM

So it's 11:45am for me now and I'll be in a call from 12 to 12:30, aside from that I am good to call and work on rollover

Undyne 21-Jun-21 04:46 PM

gotcha so you'd be free around 45 minutes from now?

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 04:52 PM

Yep

Undyne 21-Jun-21 04:53 PM

I'll go eat at the uni cafe in the meantime

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 05:32 PM

@Undyne I'm ready

Undyne 21-Jun-21 05:32 PM

alright give me 4secs

Undyne 21-Jun-21 05:49 PM

@Vriska Serket do you want to do an action in the pitch

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 06:15 PM

Wait @Vriska Serket if ur gonna sign the contract ur action should indicate it

And also it should indicate if you're suspicious of it at all (up to you whether you would be or not)

Vriska Serket 21-Jun-21 06:15 PM

OOP ok I'll change that

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 06:30 PM

Just gonna be in a meeting for the next half hour so I'll update camelot when I'm done, this gives ori more time to maybe submit something

Undyne 21-Jun-21 06:32 PM

alright

I'm gonna say mickey gets the property of arthurian legends copyrighted for disney

also gonna say melia gets such a big gust of winds she flies up high for a sec and hears rattling inside the snitch

since waffles rolled a 20

"You're not sure, but it sounds like there's something rattling inside of the flying object..."

I'm done with my areas now

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:05 PM

Sounds great

Oh also

I wonder if the Needle should be made of Atium

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:09 PM

if you want it to

doesn't make a huge difference to anyone else

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:40 PM

@King Harkinian are we ready for next phase?

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:40 PM

Just sent brine's result so I think so?

Just need to determine if pizzie's action affects her items or not

Technically one of her scrolls is not blank now, but it only has one word on it

And a poorly written word at that

I'll just send a result

I think honestly imma send

You poorly write the word "besom" on one of your scrolls. You don't sense any magical energy coming from it. You wonder if the word means anything.

Or is that last line too much of a giveaway for a 3 lmao

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:43 PM

did we ask maack

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:43 PM

I'll see what he is counting for each component

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:43 PM

yeah

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:45 PM

Do you think I should give that hint at the last line of my result for pizzie or not

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:45 PM

you should

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:45 PM

Alright sending

Maack hasn't responded to me yet, but we can update phase before deciding on the social link thing

We did last time

if ur good with that we can nextphase now

what do you think? @Undyne

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:49 PM

I think so yeah

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:50 PM

Cool

imma hit it

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:50 PM

if ori hasn't sent an action then that's too bad for them

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:50 PM

yeah

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:50 PM

we're way overtime

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:50 PM

they haven't even been on yet and it's nearly 2h past normal rollover time

so yeah

omg

maybe superb can finally install something

he can install dewey decimal system in the library for me

@Maerk if u want to be somewhere with actual ppl we can move u just let us know

Undyne 21-Jun-21 07:55 PM

okay the spy thing failed

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 07:55 PM

oh zel can't see it

should we add him?

Undyne 21-Jun-21 08:00 PM

That was weird

I misunderstood how the spy channel worked

I just added him back to the pitch and took him out of that one

should we allow him to spy on camelot while also being in the pitch if he rolled a 2?

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 08:11 PM

I think that depends on how the spy mechanic is supposed to work

I'd need to brush up on it myself

Also maack said "she mentioned about herself not an ordinary wizard, and her and battler have met before this"

Should that be enough for criteria 1

She did compliment him clearly last phase

Undyne 21-Jun-21 08:12 PM

let me brush up on the criteria

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 08:12 PM

And he did help her by giving the holy water

Undyne 21-Jun-21 08:12 PM

I guess that counts yeah

he learned a personal detail

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 08:56 PM

Cool

I'll send him the social link then

oh snap

@Undyne What if you give Melia the test to become an Accepted

that could count as a trial

Undyne 21-Jun-21 09:01 PM

how would we even do that

that requires three pocket universes

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 09:15 PM

Well there could just be one additional side channel that gets created during a phase

And the 3 scenarios could be delivered through text

But idk it would definitely be difficult

Undyne 21-Jun-21 09:44 PM

it would be a lot of work

what if

what if elaida just

makes up some trials to benefit herself

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 09:50 PM

Lmao could be

I mean she's the """Amyrlin""" so she can technically make whatever trials she wants

Undyne 21-Jun-21 09:53 PM

yeah

Undyne 21-Jun-21 10:21 PM

I might get someone new as a spectator for this game

I'll see if he's interested

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 10:41 PM

Ooh

Vriska Serket 21-Jun-21 11:14 PM

"Do I have to use my powers for the performance?" can't remember if this has been answered before

Undyne 21-Jun-21 11:14 PM

not really

but it probably won't be super impressive

if you don't use your own

@King Harkinian should I tell waffles his trial is to bring me the snitch

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 11:19 PM

ooh that would be interesting

though it might be too many people going after the snitch

Undyne 21-Jun-21 11:20 PM

I could also give him some ter'angreal whose use is still unknown

and so the trial would be to test that out

really I'd just like something to happen with the snitch

how about

I give an untested levitation ter'angreal

give that a trial run somewhere, how about you try nabbing that flying object they keep talking about in one of the areas

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 11:21 PM

Maybe

I just think that like, cath needs to get it for their objective

Undyne 21-Jun-21 11:22 PM

right true

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 11:22 PM

So it's not like no one will ever get it

Undyne 21-Jun-21 11:22 PM

unless

no one will ever get it

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 11:22 PM

true

But there are enough people that showed interest in it that having waffles just go get it might be anticlimactic

Undyne 21-Jun-21 11:23 PM

true

maybe the ter'angreal could work in conjunction with something

or it could be some kind of a compass leading to something

like the excalibur

King Harkinian 21-Jun-21 11:27 PM

Ooh

Yeah

We have people interested in the snitch but no one even knows about excalibur

So we could tie it in there

Undyne 21-Jun-21 11:28 PM

how about it's a compass to mythical magical objects, and it leads to the excalibur

and I give it to waffles and tell him to do a trial with it, figuring out how it works

and if he inspects it it leads to camelot and then into the shed

Undyne 21-Jun-21 11:40 PM

wait fuck they're taking excalibur

well that's fine it'll just lead waffles to excalibur

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 12:06 AM

Yeah

Battler won't know it's excalibur so waffles can tell him and get Merlin to reveal it

Undyne 22-Jun-21 12:07 AM

Sure

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 12:07 AM

Or if he's smart waffles can figure out how to take it for himself

Undyne 22-Jun-21 12:07 AM

It can still have some magical effect

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 12:07 AM

But

Undyne 22-Jun-21 12:07 AM

Ooooohhhhhhh

Maybe people will think the magical effect is beatrice's magic

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 12:07 AM

No one will know it's excalibur until merlin reveals it

Oh damn yeah

Undyne 22-Jun-21 12:07 AM

Kinda ingenius tbh

Even though ahmayk has real magic

He still does something without using magic

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 12:09 AM

Yeah

Undyne 22-Jun-21 12:12 AM

And somehow it works lol

Undyne 22-Jun-21 12:24 AM

A very special guest is approaching

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 12:32 AM

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 12:46 AM

@Undyne if brine somehow gets the ritual to kill everyone what if we let it happen but do a backup-and-restore and say the organizing wizards put in a failsafe

Lich leaves the game but got to achieve their objective

Undyne 22-Jun-21 12:49 AM

Would that be satisfying?

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 01:42 AM

Hmm

Well if we did it dramatically enough

Like

Actually wrote out the drama of everyone getting killed so brine would get their satisfaction (edited)

And then after some interval of time did some kind of a restorative thing to give everyone else a sigh of relief

But it might be too high concept to pull off

Undyne 22-Jun-21 08:13 AM

It might

Undyne 22-Jun-21 02:12 PM

I had a hard time finding a list of the ter'angreal in the game

cause I know there was a terangreal that points to secrets

then I realized I have a literal poster on my wall with descriptions of each ter'angreal

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 02:35 PM

LOL

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:18 PM

Back

@Undyne imma roll over library now

Which one of us should do pitch?

Undyne 22-Jun-21 05:21 PM

I can do pitch

I still need to read a bit of public law

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:21 PM

Ah ok

Well I can do pitch if you're busy, then we'll just tagteam Camelot

Undyne 22-Jun-21 05:22 PM

Alright thanks

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 05:32 PM

Is it symptom time or still subtle?

Undyne 22-Jun-21 05:35 PM

@King Harkinian what do you think

zel is in the same room after all

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:36 PM

Well it'd be very easy to make it obvious even with a "subtle" hint but we don't want to completely throw zel off (edited)

Idk what would fit in that narrow margin in between

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 05:36 PM

Aversion to the sun, lust for blood and loss of personality

I guess I can just throw out a death threat or something

Loss of personality is 100% gonna make it obvious and the sun as well

But just casually saying "I should kill Harry potter" might be in character but also subtle

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:37 PM

Lmao

Well idk if it would if it came out of nowhere

Undyne 22-Jun-21 05:38 PM

it kind of would

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 05:38 PM

Yeah but I could probably steer the convo onto that topic or something similar

Also what do I say about the snitch

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:39 PM

Well you are a quidditch player so you would know it is probably a snitch

Also is this good for superb's scan results

SCAN RESULTS ------------------------ Compatible Hardware in this area: Yes Compatible Hardware found: Library (L-Space node L000045, registered to: Unseen University) Programs Installable: Unknown Program Details: null ------------------------ Thank you for using the InstallShield Wizard® Compatibility Scan™!

He rolled a 7 so I don't want to give everything away but he should be able to put 2 and 2 together

Undyne 22-Jun-21 05:41 PM

Yeah sounds good

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:41 PM

Cool

Hopefully he actually asks the librarian about it next phase

Vriska Serket 22-Jun-21 05:41 PM

uhh anything special i need to do for an action this phasE?

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:42 PM

I don't think so? Just be there for show I think

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 05:45 PM

Should I just outright say superb can make the broom fly or just hint that he could

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:45 PM

You could mention that it seems to be missing the program needed to make it fly

The other brooms are just broken at the moment

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 05:46 PM

Sure

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:46 PM

Also @Undyne Should cathode find a book about golden snitches and how they can be opened

He rolled a 14 so he should get some good info

Idk what else would be a book that gives any hints about the needle's location

Undyne 22-Jun-21 05:50 PM

I think yeah

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:50 PM

Alright cool

Undyne 22-Jun-21 05:51 PM

Still reading about constitutional law though

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 05:58 PM

Library is done

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:05 PM

tower and pitch left?

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:06 PM

Yeah

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:09 PM

I'll do tower now

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:09 PM

Cool

I'll say that yu and battler both get the weapons they want, their 2s can probably take effect up on stage

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:11 PM

I think that's fine yeah

battler can get the excalibur

what should happen with pizzie's 3 roll?

I mean she does have a manual

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:14 PM

Hmm

Maybe she can partway fix it?

And need to take 1 more turn to finish?

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:14 PM

yeah sure

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:14 PM

Same mechanical result as failing but more sense of progress

Should I resolve the lich and daffy not doing the magic circle before the talent show?

It would be more climactic to reveal that the lich's ritual fails during the talent show but it'd be hard to work in and it might give too much away

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:16 PM

well hold on

if their action is meant for the talent show

it should be resolved during the talent show

no matter what

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:17 PM

brine's action didn't indicate it was meant for the talent show

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:17 PM

we can ask them

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:17 PM

just that it was targeting someone on stage

yeah

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:17 PM

I mean I thought they kind of made it clear in rp

you could shoot them a dm

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:17 PM

Oh yeah never mind

For some reason I remembered differently from the in-phase rp

This will be part of the talent show

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:19 PM

@Minamitsu Murasa okay so now if you feel unwell you have to go to camelot

you have to pretend like you wholeheartedly believe what zel said this phase to you

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 06:19 PM

Alright

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:20 PM

I'm done with tower and pitch

I guess I'll do uh apartment lol

done

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 06:21 PM

Any major criteria for feeling unwell or is that just something to do after a certain number of phases

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:22 PM

actually

it says "if you feel something is wrong"

so interpret that how your character would

Minamitsu Murasa 22-Jun-21 06:22 PM

Huh

Alright then

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:26 PM

I thought to hit up the bot

@King Harkinian

mysterybot must be a darth rand fan

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:28 PM

LOL

that's hilarious

Alright well I think I'm done with camelot aside from talent show

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:32 PM

I think that's all of them isn't it

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:32 PM

Lol

And yeah I think so

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:32 PM

it actually remembers my name for once

okay so talent show time? (edited)

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:33 PM

Ye[

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:33 PM

@Vriska Serket you up?

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:35 PM

oh suds is on

told him he can still send an action if it's simple

and a movement

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:36 PM

alright

Vriska Serket 22-Jun-21 06:43 PM

hi I'm here

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:43 PM

ace

Vriska Serket 22-Jun-21 06:44 PM

uhh who's performing

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:46 PM

let's see

There's beatrice with battler and yu as assistants

Himiko is performing solo

and uh, the lich? was daffy performing too? @King Harkinian

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:46 PM

No

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:46 PM

so beatrice (ft battler and yu), himiko, the lich?

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:47 PM

Daffy gave no indication in his action of going on stage or helping the lich

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:47 PM

I can do the beatrice thing and probably himiko's too

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:49 PM

Kelsier is also performing

And Ellen kind of

though her performance will not succeed since Yu is not helping her

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:49 PM

well they'll still attempt

Vriska Serket 22-Jun-21 06:49 PM

wait frick

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:50 PM

you can just add them to the end

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:50 PM

Well they can be second last

The lich said they'd go last

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:51 PM

I'll make beatrice and himiko go first

King Harkinian 22-Jun-21 06:51 PM

Cool

Undyne 22-Jun-21 06:51 PM

battler has excalibur?